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Hello everyone, I had a database with almost 2000 movies inside it, but my system HDD crashed and i was forced to reinstall everything. The previous OS was Vista so now i am moving to Win7. Everything is up and running already, except my old database. Unfortunately i don´t have backup or something like that... all i have are my movies stored in folders and each movie has its own *.xml file (about 13Tb of data). I have tried to import everything by selecting the import option in the main dropdown list. What did happen ? i have my files back in the database, but everything is completely wrong. Example : i have 15(!) movies shown in the WMC with the same posters, names, etc. . Moreover if i play every single movie of theese 15, it plays me 15 different(!) movies. I can assume that the MM Colection managment reads somehow in a wrong way the contents... Is there any way to rebuild my database correct, i mean all the movies with correct info + content and everything ? If somebody knows anything about this issue, please help ! It will be a nightmare to manually search, upload and try 2000 movies...
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globaltv wrote:Hello everyone, I had a database with almost 2000 movies inside it, but my system HDD crashed and i was forced to reinstall everything. The previous OS was Vista so now i am moving to Win7. Everything is up and running already, except my old database. Unfortunately i don´t have backup or something like that... all i have are my movies stored in folders and each movie has its own *.xml file (about 13Tb of data). I have tried to import everything by selecting the import option in the main dropdown list. What did happen ? i have my files back in the database, but everything is completely wrong. Example : i have 15(!) movies shown in the WMC with the same posters, names, etc. . Moreover if i play every single movie of theese 15, it plays me 15 different(!) movies. I can assume that the MM Colection managment reads somehow in a wrong way the contents... Is there any way to rebuild my database correct, i mean all the movies with correct info + content and everything ? If somebody knows anything about this issue, please help ! It will be a nightmare to manually search, upload and try 2000 movies...
Thank you in advance
If you have all your movies in their own folders why don't you just set up "Folder Monitoring" via Options and let your folders rebuild you DB. As for any that come up with a "!" For each title that is showing a ! goto that title in CM then go to the Disc Section to see where on your HDD the files is actual located ie \\server\movies\name of movie then if need be use "Title>Change Title Source and Data" to get the correct Movie from the Webservice. If still in need of help ask again. Steve
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Thank you snarbo,
I am well awared of that you have written, but it will be a nightmare if i have to check every single movie (2000 movies...) I think that if i set up "Folder Monitoring" CM will assign everything in the same wrong way.. It will be pointless. I am looking for something that will rebuild the DB, without the need of doing everything manually. It should take me 15 days to fix that
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globaltv wrote:Thank you snarbo,
I am well awared of that you have written, but it will be a nightmare if i have to check every single movie (2000 movies...) I think that if i set up "Folder Monitoring" CM will assign everything in the same wrong way.. It will be pointless. I am looking for something that will rebuild the DB, without the need of doing everything manually. It should take me 15 days to fix that
Thanks It should not take that long if you movies have already been named correctly. As you said in your initial posting all or most of your folders already have MM xml files in them anyway. so they should already contain the correct data. Steve
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How can i be sure which one is correct and which isn´t?? I can see that even there is a xml file in the folder, the movie is not recorded in a proper way. This means that i have to check absolutely everything. Moreover i have some titles that have been assigned multiple times - from 3 up to 20... Is there anyway that CM could assign a totally different poster to a movie, that hasn´t been in the old database ? The customer claims that he sees movie posters, that he hasn´t ever had... it seems very strange, could it be true ?
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agree with steve if you have the individual .xmls in each folder then it should rebuild your database from the info held within the .xml's you would usually just use the import function and point to the drive(s)/follder(s) containing your movies and database should be rebuilt in minutes, if this is the method you have used I can't understand your discrepencies.
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Thank you mrwonker, I have done exactly what you say, but everything goes wrong... :( where could i be wrong ??
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All I can say then is that if you have .xml files in your folders and they are giving you the wrong titles, they can't have been set up correctly in the first place or they are corrupt..
As I went from Win Xp machine to a Win 7 machine and the Win 7 machine found and read my .xml files with no trouble.
You don't run any other software that might change the .xml files?
ie for MediaBrowser or similar.
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Yes it sounds really strange, but it is true... No, i am sure that there is no other saftware that may change the .xml file. Other softwares installed : AnyDVD*, TMT 5, PowerDVD, Avast antivirus and CloneDrive. Nothing more or less. Also the customer is very positive, that before the crash everything was has been done in a proper way. Could it be something wrong from the migration from Vista to 7 ? Thanks * Installing and/or using AnyDVD is illegal in some countries. Users are themselves responsible for complying with local law when installing and using AnyDVD.
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globaltv wrote:Yes it sounds really strange, but it is true... No, i am sure that there is no other saftware that may change the .xml file. Other softwares installed : AnyDVD*, TMT 5, PowerDVD, Avast antivirus and CloneDrive. Nothing more or less. Also the customer is very positive, that before the crash everything was has been done in a proper way. Could it be something wrong from the migration from Vista to 7 ? Thanks How could it be the migration from Vista to Win 7. If all the Movies are on HDD in folders they must surely be on a NAS or a Server of some kind. So therefore MM would only read the .xml file from each folder to rebuild the DB. If the HDD where in the Vista machine, even then unless a major drive crash whereby data on the said drives becomes corrupt. The MM install on the Win 7 machine would still be able to obtain the correct info from the old .xml files. They are MM .xml files and NOT WMC DVDID.xml files? Steve * Installing and/or using AnyDVD is illegal in some countries. Users are themselves responsible for complying with local law when installing and using AnyDVD.
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All the data is stored on a RAIDs. There are DVDID.xml files as far as i know. And what is the main difference between a DVDID.xml and *.xml file ?
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globaltv wrote:All the data is stored on a RAIDs. There are DVDID.xml files as far as i know. And what is the main difference between a DVDID.xml and *.xml file ?
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DVDID.xml's are created as far as I'm aware by Windows Media Center and not by My Movies. So that is why you are getting the incorrect results. As DVDID.xml only stores the Disc ID for the Disc that created the Rip. So it looks like you will have to go through those "!" and "Change Title Source and Data" until all are correct, once done though they should then have the correct My Movies .xml files in the correct folders. Unless anybody else can suggest an alternative way for you to rebuild the DB. Steve
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my best guess for the descrepencies is that the database was flawed before you lost it, this may not have been apparent at the time do you remember when you did the import what it said in the notification box, I mean along the lines of titles added with data and titles added without data? If your database was accurate then after the import it should have said x amount of titles was added with data and 0 titles was added without data, I'm guessing that it added titles that contained no data, this could most likely be due to multi disc titles where not all of the discs were mapped to there locations, I'm afraid nothing can be done about this now I imagine the majority of your titles are correct? To cross reference any mistakes in your database I would recommend exporting the complete database .xml and viewing it in excel, if you search the forum you will find info on this, to start with I would select just two fields to view in excel 'location side A' and one of the titles name, I think you will find this the quickest way to correct any mistakes.
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just an additional note on the xml files i'm sure that the majority of your titles must have contained the mymovies.xml files but to make sure plaese remember that these files are hidden by default so you will need to go to folder options and view hidden files to be sure.
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1. Do as MrWonker says and unhide the hidden files. 2. Create an empty DB, backing up your previous one. 3. If you want to be absolutely sure and I am not sure what would happen in this case. Rename name the folder of one of the movies to something silly before copying it in, look inside the MyMovies XML file, see what it's named to. Then let the folder monitor work. If it's working from the MyMovies XML then it will come up with the proper match because it's used the MyMovies XML.
So the folder was originally called ALIENS [Blu-ray], you rename it to MY LITTLE PONY, leave out the blu-ray, not sure if there is a MY LITTLE PONY in blu-ray. Look in the ALIENS folder for the MyMovies XML file and make sure that's been named inside to ALIENS, no point in using a test case with crap match.
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skar wrote:1. Do as MrWonker says and unhide the hidden files. 2. Create an empty DB, backing up your previous one. 3. If you want to be absolutely sure and I am not sure what would happen in this case. Rename name the folder of one of the movies to something silly before copying it in, look inside the MyMovies XML file, see what it's named to. Then let the folder monitor work. If it's working from the MyMovies XML then it will come up with the proper match because it's used the MyMovies XML.
So the folder was originally called ALIENS [Blu-ray], you rename it to MY LITTLE PONY, leave out the blu-ray, not sure if there is a MY LITTLE PONY in blu-ray. Look in the ALIENS folder for the MyMovies XML file and make sure that's been named inside to ALIENS, no point in using a test case with crap match.
I can't imagine that cm is not pullling the info from the .xml I would be sure the problem will be due to something like I suggested with some of the folders not mapped to the correct titles, in which case when using the import function it will add these unmapped folders as new titles which is what I imagine is happening, I don't know that your method would work anyhow, by all means could try what you suggested but for me the mymovies.xml is encrypted I used to find it useful to occasionally open up the individual .xml's to check things so it is quite annoying that they are now encrypted, dont know what release this was changed in, what version are you running skar?
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Skar & mrwonker
Did you not read what globaltv stated at 6:20:10.
He stated that the .xml files are DVDID.xml
here's one from my own system for the movie Thor
?xml version='1.0'? Disc Name>THOR /Name ID MMDISCID|DZJHRFXM /ID /Disc
(this has had to be edited to allow posting)
Yes it tells you that the Movie is Thor but it doesn't tell you which release it is. You will find that the data for the Version of Thor that I own is held in the My Movies.xml which as you quite rightly stated James are now encrypted, and have been since I believe 4.02.
MM cannot rebuild the DB from these DVDID.xml files unfortunately, whereas had they been My Movies.xml files that would have been a different matter.
I thought originally like the pair of you that the OP was talking about My Movies.xml files, but it appears not so.
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As snarbo mentions, the dvdid.xml files are not used by My Movies.
There should be "mymovies.xml" files in the folders, which are hidden files.
They will be there if My Movies have had write access to the folders, and they have not since been removed.
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yes steve thats why added note about them being hidden whilst he may have dvdid.xml files i'm sure he will have the mymovies.xml files as far as I am aware the dvdid.xml like any additional meta data files are just additional to the mymovies.xml which will always be created.
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mrwonker wrote:yes steve thats why added note about them being hidden whilst he may have dvdid.xml files i'm sure he will have the mymovies.xml files as far as I am aware the dvdid.xml like any additional meta data files are just additional to the mymovies.xml which will always be created. Yes James you did mention that they maybe hidden. But even if they are hidden My Movies would have been able to rebuild the DB if they where present, and since MM could not rebuild the DB it only remains that obviously the required mymovies.xml files are not present. So therefore globaltv will not be able to re-create the DB from the DVDID.xml files as they are created by Window Media Center when it scans your media folders itself, hence why I have both mymovies.xml and DVDID.xml files in each of my online folders. So as I suggested earlier to globaltv the way I would go about is to use the Disc's section in CM to be sure of which movie I was dealing with and then use "Change Title Source and Data" to point CM in the right direction as to which movie I have on the HDD. Steve
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