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I have the James bond box set and all the disks are out of order. I don't know how to sort them and I don't want to delete and reenter them all. Can this be fixed?
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I don't think that can be fixed from the disc dialog without removing them all and re-adding. Personally I would say pay no mind to this and use the "box set" feature.
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When I scanned the barcode this is what it gave me. To get the boxset feature to work I would have to add the movies individually. It seems to me that with the ability to add multiple disks to a movie, it only seems logical that we should be able to sort them.
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Have you tried editing the discs info and resubmitting it. The information you pulled of course was submitted by other users and someone may have not cared how they were entered. If you rename the discs to be sequential numbers that should fix the issue. So for example change the disc names as follows; 01 Dr. No 02 From Russia with Love 03A Goldfinger 03B Goldfinger Special Features ..... 20 Die Another Day 21 Casino Royale etc. Numbering taking from Wikipedia
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Yea I could do that, I guess i'm just lazy and would rather have a sorting feature.
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listen97 wrote:Have you tried editing the discs info and resubmitting it. The information you pulled of course was submitted by other users and someone may have not cared how they were entered. If you rename the discs to be sequential numbers that should fix the issue. So for example change the disc names as follows; 01 Dr. No 02 From Russia with Love 03A Goldfinger 03B Goldfinger Special Features ..... 20 Die Another Day 21 Casino Royale etc. Numbering taking from Wikipedia This may not be the case, I have in the past experienced the order of the discs get messed up, only ever happened on titles with many discs which would fit the bill here, this had nothing to do with how the discs were initially added or how they are saved in the webservice, guessing there is a bit of a bug with regards to this. It would be a lot easier to sort if you could simply move discs up and down to correct the problem but I'm afraid you can't, only solution I know of is doing as lostinva says, bit of a ball ache I know and then you have to hope it doesn't mess up again. I don't know what format you have your James Bond movies in but there is a few other possibilities If each movie is a single file rather than a VIDEO_TS folder or BDVM folder you could just put all the Video files in the main collection folder and remove all the discs, then just add one as 'online folder content' point to the main collection folder and you will get the full list in wmc, only trouble with this solution is if you ever move the path it doesn't auto correct itself in the same way as when using the standard 'online folder' method. you could even use the same method if they are in VIDEO_TS or BDVM folders by leaving them where they are but creating a playlist file for each that points to the correct starting file in the VIDEO_TS or BDVM folder put the playlist files in the main collection folder and use the same steps as above. final option I can think of is create a single plalist file for all the James Bond movies put that in the main collection folder and use a single disc to point to that but use the standard 'online folder' option, disadvantage of this is you won't be able to select the movie from wmc when you select play it will play them all starting with the first and you would have to use your media players playlist to select the movie. these solutions may only work if you use an external media player as I don't know how wmc deals with playlist files.
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listen97 wrote:Have you tried editing the discs info and resubmitting it. The information you pulled of course was submitted by other users and someone may have not cared how they were entered. If you rename the discs to be sequential numbers that should fix the issue. So for example change the disc names as follows; 01 Dr. No 02 From Russia with Love 03A Goldfinger 03B Goldfinger Special Features ..... 20 Die Another Day 21 Casino Royale etc. Numbering taking from Wikipedia So half way through the renaming I realized that all the disk ID are going to be messed up if I submit this to the webservice. So while this will work locally it would not be good if I submitted it. Being able to sort would keep the Disk Id and name together.
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ryanmc wrote:listen97 wrote:Have you tried editing the discs info and resubmitting it. The information you pulled of course was submitted by other users and someone may have not cared how they were entered. If you rename the discs to be sequential numbers that should fix the issue. So for example change the disc names as follows; 01 Dr. No 02 From Russia with Love 03A Goldfinger 03B Goldfinger Special Features ..... 20 Die Another Day 21 Casino Royale etc. Numbering taking from Wikipedia So half way through the renaming I realized that all the disk ID are going to be messed up if I submit this to the webservice. So while this will work locally it would not be good if I submitted it. Being able to sort would keep the Disk Id and name together. How would this adjust the DiscID? If you just edit the name the DiscID should stay the same. I took a random disc and edited the "Name" the DiscID stayed the same.
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listen97 wrote:ryanmc wrote:listen97 wrote:Have you tried editing the discs info and resubmitting it. The information you pulled of course was submitted by other users and someone may have not cared how they were entered. If you rename the discs to be sequential numbers that should fix the issue. So for example change the disc names as follows; 01 Dr. No 02 From Russia with Love 03A Goldfinger 03B Goldfinger Special Features ..... 20 Die Another Day 21 Casino Royale etc. Numbering taking from Wikipedia So half way through the renaming I realized that all the disk ID are going to be messed up if I submit this to the webservice. So while this will work locally it would not be good if I submitted it. Being able to sort would keep the Disk Id and name together. How would this adjust the DiscID? If you just edit the name the DiscID should stay the same. I took a random disc and edited the "Name" the DiscID stayed the same. It doesn't and that is the problem. For example. The disk name was originally "Dr. No" and the Disk Id was for the Dr. No DVD. If I rename the disk to "For Your eyes only" then the Disk ID stays for "Dr. No". Now I have a disk that has the Name "For your Eyes Only", but the disk Id for "Dr. No". Does that make sense? We need to keep the disk id and the name matching.
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listen97 wrote:OK I see what your doing, I was suggesting editing the name for the correct disc. But I did try another set and put the 01, 02 in-front of discs and they don't readjust the sorting so they stay out of order. Seems like it should recognize changes and adjust the disc order. The only other thing you could do is adjust the "Name" and DiscId, but that IMO is a lot of work. To adjust the Disk Id I would have to dig the collection out of the basement and scan each disk. Yes that would be too much work. A simple sorting, or drag and drop ordering would solve this.
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ryanmc wrote:listen97 wrote:OK I see what your doing, I was suggesting editing the name for the correct disc. But I did try another set and put the 01, 02 in-front of discs and they don't readjust the sorting so they stay out of order. Seems like it should recognize changes and adjust the disc order. The only other thing you could do is adjust the "Name" and DiscId, but that IMO is a lot of work. To adjust the Disk Id I would have to dig the collection out of the basement and scan each disk. Yes that would be too much work. A simple sorting, or drag and drop ordering would solve this. +1
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As already mentioned in the feature request made for the same thing, it have been added to our list of requests.
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Ok. Maybe I am missing something here. But it seems to me that this is not the correct way to do a box set? I would think that an entry for each movie should be created using a 000000000000 bar code (Unless there is an actual bar code for each movie / disc in the box set) (The entry might even already exist (Search for the actual Movie in your country and do a preview to see if there is one with a 000000000000 Barcode)), (then you could use the personal sort option to create the sort order). Then the titles should be added to the actual box set which would be created with It's actual barcode and a tt0000000 IMDB ID. Your box set would then show up with the "+" sign which would expand all the movies in the correct sort order. (Note that most of the time in such a case I do also create the Disc ID's in the actual box set. But as previously mentioned they would need to be created in the correct order at the time the box set is created) However using the method above you could always add the disc id's later.
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jctcom wrote:Ok. Maybe I am missing something here.
But it seems to me that this is not the correct way to do a box set?
I would think that an entry for each movie should be created using a 000000000000 bar code (Unless there is an actual bar code for each movie / disc in the box set) (The entry might even already exist (Search for the actual Movie in your country and do a preview to see if there is one with a 000000000000 Barcode)), (then you could use the personal sort option to create the sort order).
Then the titles should be added to the actual box set which would be created with It's actual barcode and a tt0000000 IMDB ID.
Your box set would then show up with the "+" sign which would expand all the movies in the correct sort order.
(Note that most of the time in such a case I do also create the Disc ID's in the actual box set. But as previously mentioned they would need to be created in the correct order at the time the box set is created)
However using the method above you could always add the disc id's later.
If you are using the New (ie Version 4.03) then you can't just add any old 000000000000 barcode disc and make it a box set as when it is contributed back to the system any user who has choosen not to use 4.03 will sudden find they have a problem. Follow the Contribution Rules, even if it means you have to Create New Child Profiles for your Box Set (Parent). We have found during testing that to just use any stand alone Profile be it a normal Barcoded one or one with 000000000000 barcodee that is already on the system prior to 4.03 by using those profiles interferes with those user's not wishing to upgrade yet. So even if your Parent Profile has keepcases inside which hold the actual Disc's have their own normal Barcodes you still have to Create New 000000000000 Child Profiles. The only item to keep it's original Barcode will be the Parent. But you are right in the assumption that the Parent gets a tt0000000 IMDb ID. Yes you should also place the Child Profile Disc ID's in the Parent Profile Steve
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Actually I only just downloaded and installed the new V 4.03 a few minutes ago. I was wondering though if you or someone else knows what the reasoning was behind using a 000000000000 barcode instead of the actual barcode for the child item when one exists? I understand and have used the 000000000000 barcode on many occasions when the child item does not have one but why the switch for child items that do have their own barcode? Carl.
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jctcom wrote:Actually I only just downloaded and installed the new V 4.03 a few minutes ago.
I was wondering though if you or someone else knows what the reasoning was behind using a 000000000000 barcode instead of the actual barcode for the child item when one exists?
I understand and have used the 000000000000 barcode on many occasions when the child item does not have one but why the switch for child items that do have their own barcode?
Carl. Because as already explained if you use an already existing Barcoded or 000000000000 barcode it will interfere with those user's who a. do not have 4.03 yet and b. interferes with the stand alone user's. This was discovered whilst doing extensive testing during the Alpha stage of which I am one of the Testers. And was one of the team that put the New Box Set Contribution Rules and Guidelines together. Steve
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I'm glad I don't use box sets at all, so many posts on forum recently about various box set issues, personally I don't care much whether I have an original box set or not, I will still add the contents as individual titles, I prefer having all my titles handled and displayed in the same manner (a bit ocd on that i guess) I also like the fact that I get a true count of how many titles I have, when using box sets this is not so clear, another problem I have with box sets is its sometimes not clear if you have all titles in a series for example take the 'complete' james bond collection in this case, its only complete until the next james bond film comes out so can be misleading, only good thing about box sets in my opinion is to group film series together especially those that would appear apart alphabetically, I get round this by changing the names in personal data, so for example I would label 'tales of riddick' pitch black 2-tales of riddick.
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Trouble is James if the people having the problems followed the guidelines instead of what "Joe Blogs" says they should do they would not have any trouble with the Box Set feature. A lot of testing went into getting it running correctly before it went into Beta.
And you still get the correct count of the number of Titles that you have unless I misunderstand your meaning.
As for Complete Series for a Box Set that is an issue that will always be around, a prime example as you say is the James Bond Box Set, another being Bourne Box Set now that the studios are talking of making another, sets like that will never be complete until somebody says stop we'll start a new set or what ever.
Like the "Batman: The Motion Picture Anthology 1989-1997" at least even though more films where made afterwards there is a definitive start and end.
Same could apply to TV Series "24" being a prime example original intended as a 5 series run, not bad for something that ran for 8 series and a film (Redemption).
As for Tales of Riddick shouldn't that be "The Chronicles of Riddick" ?
Pitch Black being the first film and The Chronicles of Riddick the follow up.
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PS or did you Yanks have the film's under different titles.
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snarbo wrote:Trouble is James if the people having the problems followed the guidelines instead of what "Joe Blogs" says they should do they would not have any trouble with the Box Set feature. A lot of testing went into getting it running correctly before it went into Beta.
And you still get the correct count of the number of Titles that you have unless I misunderstand your meaning.
As for Complete Series for a Box Set that is an issue that will always be around, a prime example as you say is the James Bond Box Set, another being Bourne Box Set now that the studios are talking of making another, sets like that will never be complete until somebody says stop we'll start a new set or what ever.
Like the "Batman: The Motion Picture Anthology 1989-1997" at least even though more films where made afterwards there is a definitive start and end.
Same could apply to TV Series "24" being a prime example original intended as a 5 series run, not bad for something that ran for 8 series and a film (Redemption).
As for Tales of Riddick shouldn't that be "The Chronicles of Riddick" ?
Pitch Black being the first film and The Chronicles of Riddick the follow up.
Steve
PS or did you Yanks have the film's under different titles. It probably does give you the correct count now when you use box sets, to be honest I haven't properly looked at how it works now as Have little interest in it, but in past for example this james bons set would have only showed as one title, where as its infact many. Chronicles of riddick, yes your right my mistake, and i'm not a yank lol.
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