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who would like folder monitoring to handle multi disc movies and boxsets.
For instance the folder structure below.
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
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Now the system sends disc 1 and disc 2 as movie names to the webservice, with the new feature if the folder contains the word disc it wil use the parent foldername.
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makes sense, can't think of a scenario where a folder named Disc * should be added as a title, also would be preferable if it could add the folder locations of the Disc * folders to the disc(s) information, personally I'd like this to go one step further and when using folder monitoring or import folder to have the option to select how deep cm should scan, as if cm can determine the parent folder of each title it could then add information to disc(s) regardless of the folders being named Disc * so for example for a tv series containing seperate files for each episode could have all the episodes added as 'online file' and for example a movie boxset like waynes world 1+2 the child folders may be called waynes world 1 and waynes world 2. Without this additional thought that boxset would still be added as 3 seperate titles, would also rename the name of the disc(s) to that of the folder name so if it was a movie with disc 1 and disc 2 then that is what the discs are named as in my first example the episodes would be named ***S01E01 etc and my 2nd example the discs would be named waynes world 1 and waynes world 2. +1
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It is not as simple as this.
The problem is that for the "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" approach to work, it would be needed that monitoring hits the exact release of this title, with this exact number of discs.
That in itself can be very difficult.
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Hi Brian, my thoughts on your comment. Quote:It is not as simple as this.
The problem is that for the "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" approach to work, it would be needed that monitoring hits the exact release of this title, with this exact number of discs.
That in itself can be very difficult.
I believe when adding 'online titles' cm should disregard how many discs there are supposed to be on a particular release as it often becomes irrelivant, this would also solve and address another feature request I've been mentioning a lot recently about when updating titles to stop from altering the disc(s) info as this is a lot of the time personal to the user, how many users have titles that are multi discs but only rip 1 disc? a lot I would imagine how many users have seperate files per episode in TV series who map these using the disc(s) info? anyone who does this face a big problem when using the update titles function as they will loose all there mappings. So if went for this approach then I believe a number of problems a lot of users face would be solved. what would be the negative side of this solution as I can not really think of one? James.
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I disagree - you should not be getting profiles that have a different number of discs than what is on the actual profile.
Imagine how many profiles that would get ruined because of this.
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I am not suggesting that it changes the main profile, more the ability to add the disc(s) information to personal data, you obviously recognise that users have there own preference on this which is why the disc(s) information can be changed to suit, but it makes no sense to allow users to change this information to then loose their input when updating there titles, my suggestion would be that for online titles then cm could add this information during folder scanning to populate the personal disc(s) information and for offline titles no personal disc(s) information needs to be added. It would 1. stop the additional titles being added for multi disc titles 2. reduce what is needed to be done by the user to map the extra folders/files and 3. safe guard the users personal information on the disc(s) info when updating titles.
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Is the following an option:
If a movie folder contains 'disc ##' folders; try to find a profile with matching number of discs. If the user has more discs than there are in the given profile it is a new profile or a custom profile. By using folder monitoring it should be flaged as a custom profile which doesn't get uploaded to the webservice. If a profile is found with more discs than the user has on his HD then the missings discs are offline.
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think its better for the comunity if where possible people don't use 'custom' (personal titles) plus your only allowed i believe 80 personal titles, which is another reason why it would be an advantage to have the disc(s) information as personal data, if I set all my titles that the disc(s) information differs from the original I would be in the 100s therefore I am forced not being able to contribute my improvements and also from updating any of these titles from the webservice.
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mrwonker wrote:how many users have titles that are multi discs but only rip 1 disc? a lot I would imagine This is a bit PITA for me. I too only rip the main movie disk. But any title that is listed as having more than one disk ends up asking you which disk you want to watch, even if only one is ripped online. It's particularly confusing when the disks get mapped incorrectly (which I presume MM is doing, as I don't map them this way). For example, there are titles that have DVD+Blu-ray+digital copy. I only rip the blu-ray, but sometimes the DVD is listed as the first disk, and that's what the blu-ray ends up getting mapped to. The user is presented with the choice of disks, chooses blu-ray, when really they need to choose DVD to play the blu-ray. I've set up a filter to show only "offline" titles so I can easily identify them, then manually go through and delete the extra discs that I don't rip, so it automatically plays the (1) disc I have ripped. But I've started noticing a lot of movies again asking the user to choose the disc, that aren't coming up in my filter. When I look at them, the offending discs are listed as being online (so they don't show up in my filter), but with no path to the movie. The only thing I can figure is that periodic title updating is causing previously deleted discs to be added back in, but they are adding in as "online" instead of offline, so I can no longer find them and fix them (again) with my search. I would propose a much simpler solution to this problem: a global option to simply tell MM to only give you the "which disk?" question when there are actually valid paths entered to multiple discs. If the option is checked, and I only have one disc ripped (and a valid path to that rip), then don't ask me which one I want to watch, regardless of how many discs might have been included in the physical package. If I have that option checked, and DO have multiple discs ripped, only ask me to choose between the discs I actually ripped, rather than all the discs I could have ripped for that title. Personally, I don't know why someone who chooses to exclude ripping some discs from a title would even want to use MM to play those excluded discs. If I want to view the "special features" disc, and I know I didn't rip it, I'll just go pull it off the shelf and play it. I don't see why I'd want to navigate through MM just so that it can tell me to go pull it off the shelf and play it. But I understand why the feature is there, and some may use it. Having an option to enable or disable this behavior allows this, while no longer forcing those of us (the majority, I suspect) who don't want to access offline titles through the MM interface to answer that question every time. Having this as a global option means we wouldn't even have to edit the disc info in the first place.
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Think you made some really good points there Dscline though I think your solution only addresses that particular problem where with my proposed solution it would address this and more. what about users who alter the disc(s) info for other reasons, from within disc(s) you could select a file to be mapped as 'online file' now to my knowledge there will be no titles on the webservice that have discs marked as 'online file' so cm gives the user the ability to change this for their preference but then overwrites the changes you make when updating titles, this makes no sense to me at all, there is a vast difference in how people deal and catalogue there collection. the disc(s) feature is great in its flexability to allow this all I ask is for this personal choice to be recognised as being so, and not be overwritten the same way as personal data gives the user the choice on how they name their titles. If this was implimented there would then be scope to do more things like the ability for the importing of online titles to populate this info more accurately. But first things first add the disc(s) info into personal data or any other way to achieve the same thing.
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Just to add to what you said Dscline about having difficulty finding titles that have offline discs being marked as online, I have never known a disc to be marked as online unless there is a physical path, but if that is the case with some of your titles I would recommend using excel to view the exported .xml file to better manage your collection you could find all titles that have discs without a physical path in this way in seconds. There is a guide on this in the sticky 'how to turn a MyMovies XML export into a report, or you could search some of my other threads were I discuss how I set up a more automated and user defined way of doing similar thing using .vbs and .bat scripts.
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There are not going to be made any changes to how discs are handled in regards to online, offline and personalization.
Either you have the original title with all the discs, or you do not - again, I see a request such as this to be mainly for users who downloaded a movie illegally, and do not have the actual title.
But, this is another topic than what this feature request was originally about, and I suggest directing in on original topic again.
The reason monitoring does not handle multi-disc release is simply because it is extremely complicated to ensure that it actually hits the correct release, and I do not see that there will be changes made on this front anytime soon, sorry.
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Ok, so you are sayin that the biggest issue is hitting the correct release. So what if you could put somekind of id in the title with [id:12345] that would ensure the correct release. would that be an option?
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Hi there,
Without any gurantees for when and how it will be implemented, I can tell that we have added two feature requests to our internal list of tasks.
1) Improvment of folder monitoring - maybe to recognize box sets
2) A global option to simply tell MM to only give you the "which disk?" question when there are actually valid paths entered to multiple discs.
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Brian a few points. I don't see why as you put it the request 'to be mainly for users who downloaded a movie illegally' as a user has already demonstrated in this very thread how he has ORIGINAL multi disc titles he rips them to his hard drive doesn't want to rip special feature discs or double triple play extra discs on blu-rays this must be very normal who would want to have the option to play a DVD version when they have a Blu-Ray rip on ther PC? I also don't understand why you would take such a strong view on not wanting to help people who illegally download movies, you must realise there is a massive amount of your users that do, do you really think all these users with thousands of titles have bought them all original, not saying it is not possible but I doubt there are many that have, Its just my personal guess but I would reckon probably a conservative 70% or more of your users probably do this and sure a percentage of these have helped MyMovies move forward by either contributing to the webservice, purchasing apps or buying points, I'm not saying it is right or wrong just would have thought you could sit on fence a bit more on the subject. I don't think the feature request is going off topic just I think my method of dealing with this problem would require the disc(s) info would need to be made personal choice after that I think my idea covers and rectifies precisely what the original feature request was about just it has scope to do so much more. By the way I think MyMovies is great but as always If I see a way that I feel it could be improved I will provide my ideas, I guess that is what the feature request forum is about, I have yet to hear of a downside to this feature request but as always you have the decision as to what changes make future releases.
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binnerup wrote:Either you have the original title with all the discs, or you do not - again, I see a request such as this to be mainly for users who downloaded a movie illegally, and do not have the actual title. Either you are completely misunderstanding the issue, or you just don't know how many of us use this software. If I have a movie that comes with a Blu-ray, a DVD, and a digital copy, why would I want to rip all three of those? And if I only rip one of those, why would I want to be asked which one I want to watch every time I click "Play"? I can't automatically play anything that I haven't ripped. If I have a reason to want to watch an "extras" disc that I haven't ripped, I'll just go get the disc and play it. I have to go get it anyway. There's no sense in doing that through MM when it's just going to tell me to go get the disc and stick it in. I understand the desire to have an accurate record of what a particular title consists of. That can be maintained while still making the software user friendly.
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If you have discs that are offline and have no desire for it show up in MCE, then just click the "hide in MCE interface" check box to exclude them. The result is if only one disc is online and visible, then it plays directly without the prompt. There is no need to be deleting discs from the profile to achieve that effect.
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oezoezoe wrote:Ok, so you are sayin that the biggest issue is hitting the correct release. So what if you could put somekind of id in the title with [id:12345] that would ensure the correct release. would that be an option?
If you are getting into such manual options, the automation of the monitoring disappears, and you might as well can add the title in Collection Management as you must now.
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lostinva wrote:If you have discs that are offline and have no desire for it show up in MCE, then just click the "hide in MCE interface" check box to exclude them. The result is if only one disc is online and visible, then it plays directly without the prompt. There is no need to be deleting discs from the profile to achieve that effect. And this setting is a personal thing.
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lostinva wrote:If you have discs that are offline and have no desire for it show up in MCE, then just click the "hide in MCE interface" check box to exclude them. The result is if only one disc is online and visible, then it plays directly without the prompt. There is no need to be deleting discs from the profile to achieve that effect. I started doing that originally. When I first got MM I went crazy ripping all of our discs, sometimes doing 20 a night. It was a while before I realized the problem of it asking if I wanted to play discs I didn't rip, so then I tried paying attention to it, changing it when I ripped new movies with more than one disc, but some I caught, some I didn't. The problem with the "hide from MCE" option is: you can't filter by that attribute. I decided it was better to delete the discs I didn't rip, because I could search for "offline" discs, and catch the ones I missed much more efficiently. At least until I realized it would come behind me and start adding the deleted discs back in. If nothing is going to change, I guess my only option is to write an SQL query that will automatically set the "hide from MCE interface" attribute on any disc with an empty path.
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