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I am a bit confused how to treat the Hornblower 8-disc Blu-Ray Collection. This is the one in question. Hornblower on Bluray.comIt's a slipcase with 2 cases each with 4 discs. Does this need to be treated as a box-set ? Which I have seen noted in your "contributing box-sets" not do for TV-series.. If it's not to be treated as a boxset - how should it then be treated..? I'm confused... Regards Peter
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Please note: This would be a TV series not a movie box set and not a TV box set either as it is all the same show despite how it may call itself, this is essentially a TV series composed of feature length episodes and while these are often referred to as movies they are not theatrical movies but a TV series of TV movies or feature length episodes which we would still consider and treat as a TV series.
So in fact you would contribute this as a single item, the sub packaging simply won't be used it will be one item using the main box with all discs and the episodes mapped to the relevant hornblower TV series data.
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andycob wrote:Please note: This would be a TV series not a movie box set and not a TV box set either as it is all the same show despite how it may call itself, this is essentially a TV series composed of feature length episodes and while these are often referred to as movies they are not theatrical movies but a TV series of TV movies or feature length episodes which we would still consider and treat as a TV series.
So in fact you would contribute this as a single item, the sub packaging simply won't be used it will be one item using the main box with all discs and the episodes mapped to the relevant hornblower TV series data. Good catch Andrew - I saw it as feature movies...
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binnerup wrote:I am not sure how it looks inside, but you would have all movies as separate child titles, and just have the same cover for multiple titles. I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean.. How can I attach separate child titles without making it a box set ? Also as it has two cases with each 4 discs an separate covers for each case. To sum it up.. The slipcase has 2 disc-cases inside, each holding 4 discs each. The two disc-cases have different covers (no barcode) - also different from the slipcase. I have made an entry for the main slipcase/box and linked the 8 discs to the appropriate tv-series. I have also made two entries/childs for the two disc-cases I have linked those with the appropriate episodes/movies. Disc 1 = episodes/movies 1-4 Disc 2 = episodes/movies 5-8 But how do I link the two child entries/disc-cases if I can't make it a box set ? PS. - I have seen other entries registered as box-sets... like this one..so is that an error...? Hornblower 8 disc DVDIt would be nice to add images to this post... How do you use the Img tags...? Regards Peter
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You don't, it will not be a box set and so will not have any child titles. It will be a single item. The sub packaging simply wont be used at all.
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All you need is the one entry for the main case, put all the discs on that and map them, you can delete the items you created for the child titles or keep them locally but they aren't needed or valid for contribution.
We base box sets on content not packaging, e.g. a single case single disc with 4 different movies is a movie box set with 4 childs. A TV series item (if it is all the same show) is one item with all the discs and preferably mapped to the series data, regardless of how it may have sub cases for seasons or episodes.
If you have seen other items that have been incorrectly accepted as box sets for this please report them for correction.
Some are bound to slip past because of the unhelpful way they call themselves movies and not every moderator is necessarily going to be familiar with or know how this show and other similar ones like it are made. It's a bit of a UK thing, probably because productions tend to be much smaller here and seldom match the US style 26 episode season structure, for the UK it more commonly 3-6. Hornblower is much like Sharpe another similar series that is/was made in highly sporadic tv movie/feature length episodes, probably so it can be budgeted and shot one at a time, but a TV series of TV movies is still a TV series. I would really have to check but its even likely that in the UK some of these were 2-3 parts when broadcast but again this show has had a mix of single and multipart broadcasts just to be really confusing.
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andycob wrote:All you need is the one entry for the main case, put all the discs on that and map them, you can delete the items you created for the child titles or keep them locally but they aren't needed or valid for contribution.
We base box sets on content not packaging, e.g. a single case single disc with 4 different movies is a movie box set with 4 childs. A TV series item (if it is all the same show) is one item with all the discs and preferably mapped to the series data, regardless of how it may have sub cases for seasons or episodes.
If you have seen other items that have been incorrectly accepted as box sets for this please report them for correction.
Some are bound to slip past because of the unhelpful way they call themselves movies and not every moderator is necessarily going to be familiar with or know how this show and other similar ones like it are made. It's a bit of a UK thing, probably because productions tend to be much smaller here and seldom match the US style 26 episode season structure, for the UK it more commonly 3-6. Hornblower is much like Sharpe another similar series that is/was made in highly sporadic tv movie/feature length episodes, probably so it can be budgeted and shot one at a time, but a TV series of TV movies is still a TV series. I would really have to check but its even likely that in the UK some of these were 2-3 parts when broadcast but again this show has had a mix of single and multipart broadcasts just to be really confusing. Thanks for the replies.. I think I get it now. Sort of. One thing I am in doubt about before contributing this title is that ... Hornblower doesn't like Sharpe and Downtown Abbey have a direct link to Imdb...because it's listed as TV-Movies on Imdb instead of a TV-Series... What do I do here - I guess the only thing to do is just leaving that field blank. But it's still confusing though to say the least...
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andycob wrote:All you need is the one entry for the main case, put all the discs on that and map them, you can delete the items you created for the child titles or keep them locally but they aren't needed or valid for contribution.
We base box sets on content not packaging, e.g. a single case single disc with 4 different movies is a movie box set with 4 childs. A TV series item (if it is all the same show) is one item with all the discs and preferably mapped to the series data, regardless of how it may have sub cases for seasons or episodes.
If you have seen other items that have been incorrectly accepted as box sets for this please report them for correction.
Some are bound to slip past because of the unhelpful way they call themselves movies and not every moderator is necessarily going to be familiar with or know how this show and other similar ones like it are made. It's a bit of a UK thing, probably because productions tend to be much smaller here and seldom match the US style 26 episode season structure, for the UK it more commonly 3-6. Hornblower is much like Sharpe another similar series that is/was made in highly sporadic tv movie/feature length episodes, probably so it can be budgeted and shot one at a time, but a TV series of TV movies is still a TV series. I would really have to check but its even likely that in the UK some of these were 2-3 parts when broadcast but again this show has had a mix of single and multipart broadcasts just to be really confusing. I have a followup question regarding tv-series.. Would Band of Brothers/The Pacific series count as a Box-set or not ?My guess is that it would be as it is two different series - am I in the wrong about this or could you confirm this, please ?
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Band of Brothers + The Pacific would be a TV series box set as it contains two different shows but NOTE the box set uses one child for each series with all the discs for that series on the child and mapped to the series data regardless of how it is packaged. It is content not packaging that determines box sets.
IMDB is not always right and rather US centric, to anyone from the UK Hornblower like Sharpe is a TV series even if it is made up of a combination of more normal TV series, TV mini-series and TV movie elements. Looked at individually the TV movies probably do have individual IMDB entries but we would still consider TV movies that form or continue a TV series as part of that TV series though they may well fall under 'specials' in season 0 of the TV series data. Like I said it is very possible these 'movies' were actually two-three part mini-series on original UK broadcast, I can't remember with any certainty.
If there is a general IMDB for the Hornblower series it would probably be acceptable to use that for this hornblower item as the closest thing to correct even though its a bit arguable.
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