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andycob wrote:
It should be 'TV series' as that is what the content is.


Okay, but the TV Series Mapping will be missing on the Parent and will be tagged as Improvable. Will not be able to set those on the Parent since it is two separate TV Series.
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That is correct and expected.
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I have a question i am trying to add a boxset (anime classics Australia 9322225016552) and when I try to contribute I get an error message saying "It is not allowed to contribute a box set with existing titles as children. Please see the contribution guidelines for box sets.", I don't really understand what this means as the child titles are all 0 barcodes as per the guidelines because there is only a barcode on the outer box. Someone else created the title with a scan of the box but wrong info in the description and other info that should not be in a box set like the audio, aspect ratio and other data, and without any child items for the movies, so I had to remove the extra data and then redid the scans, added the correct description then added the child movies from the series/box set button. Have I done something wrong here as I followed the guidelines as far as I can tell but I don't understand the error message so I can't really find the info i am looking for in the guides.
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That message indicates the child profiles you are using already exist as individual items on the web service, did you contribute the child titles on their own before assembling the box set? If so that's the problem, you should not contribute the childs separately but only as part of the full box set. Contributing them separately creates them as standalone items which can then not be used to create the box set.

I have had a quick look at the titles contribution list and can see standalone contributions for the childs for this from you. I have declined those so the titles should revert to personal items that you can then use to contribute the box set.
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Hi andy,
Recently I created 2 box sets.
-PREDATOR 3 - MOVIE COLLECTION (UK version barcode : 5039036089203)
-X-MEN 3 - FILM COLLECTION (US version barcode : 024543558798)
Both are Single Box Sets (so box set containing individual discs within one box as explained in "Box Set Contribution Guide")

By creating, I mean I added the 3 children tittles for both.
Because, like for dero09, "someone else created the title with a scan of the box but wrong info in the description and other info that should not be in a box set like the audio, aspect ratio and other data, and without any child items for the movies, so I had to remove the extra data and then redid the scans, added the correct description then added the child movies from the series/box set button".

It was OK , the 2 box sets were correctly created in the iphone, showing the children tiltles inside their own box sets containers.
And suddenly the 3 children tittles have been separated in the iphone/ipad application from their box sets containers.
So now, on my iphone, I see 4 titles (the box set container and the 3 children tittles).
May be, after to have contributed to the box set, I contributed separately to the children tittles inside (to be honest I don't remember), so creating standalone items (as you explained to dero09)?
But what I am sure is that I didn't contributed to the children tittles before assembling the box set because those individual tilles didn't yet exist at that time.

It already happenned one time some weeks ago with PREDATOR and I was obligied to create again the 3 children titles.
Because they were not only separed in the iphone but also disapearing from the box set in "My movie - Collection Management".
This time, as I locked the 2 box sets in "my movie collection management", I don't have to create again the children tittles.

What did I do wrong ?
And how can I do to find back how it was just after to have contributed ?

Thks&Brgds
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binnerup wrote:
Did you contribute the title to the service, or was it created only locally?


After to have created the box set adding the children tittles (that I fully filled), I contributed to the service.
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Please check your emails, from what I can see the first is not a box set on the service and the second has a box set contribution for it pending from another user. Neither show any contribution from bardamu in their histories which would suggest your box set contributions were declined for not following guidelines fully. In which case you should have had an email giving some indication of what was wrong and possibly suggested corrections and a suggestion to correct and re-submit. When declined the childs will I think have reverted to personal titles in your collection, so while you might still have them assembled locally as a box set in collection management as the item is not a box set on the web service the childs will sync to your app as individual personal titles and not as the box set.

Assuming these were rejected you would need to make the corrections suggested by the moderator who rejected them and resubmit. Or in the case of the x-Men one another user has done so, so you would have to wait for that to be approved/rejected, if approved you will get that approved set and not need to do any more for that one.
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Yes, you're right.
Just after to have posted here Friday, I found in my spam box an E-mail from carl2005 (dated from Oct 3rd) rejecting my contribution for Predator.
But nothing about X-Men.
If I try again to create the box set, will I have to fill again all the information for the children ?
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You should not have to enter the childs again. The childs used for the rejected box set contribution should have reverted to personal titles in your collection locally, so you should have and be able to re-use them to resubmit the full box set. One tip get the parent done and correct and as complete as a parent should be and contributed on it's own then do the full box set. Obviously you will need to make any needed corrections and try to ensure your box set follows guidelines to ensure it does not get rejected again. You may also need to accept any updates to the parent before you start adding to it.

The X-Men one has (or had) a box set contribution pending from another user, so you won't be able to contribute that one until that is approved or rejected. If approved you wont need to contribute at all as you will get the version created by the other user as an update.

There may have been a temporary issue with the outgoing emails due to some background updates to the systems content management, hopefully that's fixed now so its possible an email for the X-men one didn't go out.
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Ok I tried again for Predator box set...I hope I did it correctly this time..

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I probably did again something wrong.
When I sent the contribution (data+covers) for the box set, the service replied that the covers were the sames than the ones already existing.
So I contributed only for the datas.
And now the covers of the children tittles disapeared.
So I added them again for every child.
But now, do I have to contribute for the covers on the parent or evey child one by one ?
If I understood correctly, contributing to the children separately will create standalone items...so I guess I should contributed through the parent only..right ?
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While your box set is pending approval you should be able to go to each child individually and click contribute cover and it should be appended to your existing box set contribution that I can see is pending approval without covers on the childs.
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andycob wrote:
While your box set is pending approval you should be able to go to each child individually and click contribute cover and it should be appended to your existing box set contribution that I can see is pending approval without covers on the childs.


What I don't understand is that the covers for the children were here when I tried to contribute first for the box set ?
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bardamu wrote:

What I don't understand is that the covers for the children were here when I tried to contribute first for the box set ?


Sounds like with your first attempt you struck the same problem as me that I described here: https://www.mymovies.dk/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=44591
This is where the webservice will reject a boxset contribution when the boxset container (parent title) has the exact same covers that are already on the webservice. I've suggested they have the webservice ignore this fact if it is part of a boxset contribution as using existing titles as the boxset container is a suggested method in the creation of a boxset so you are going to strike this error if you follow the instructions on this site. I worked around it in my contribution by removing one row of pixels from the top of the front cover of the existing parent title and included that adjusted cover in my boxset contribution so that technically it's cover was different to what was on the server even though to the eye it looked identical. This was enough to satisfy the validation of the webservice and it accepted my contribution including all of the child title covers.
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Yes it seems I faced the same problem.
Now I am surprised that andycob said that I could contribute to every child one by one.
Because I understood he answered the opposite (I mean to not do because it will create individual tittles) some posts ago.
May be I understood wrong...?
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Note I specifically said while the full box set is pending approval and only then.

If you contribute the childs individually when the box set doesn't exist you will create them as standalones which you don't want to do. But if you contribute to a child after contributing the full box set while it is pending approval that should append to the existing box set.

If you contribute the full box set, then while it is pending approval go to one of the childs and make a data or cover contribution on that child it will be appended to the box set contribution pending approval.

If you contribute the childs separately when the full box set does not already exist, either pending approval or already approved, then you would create standalones which you should not do.

So if you contributed the full box set selecting only data, you should be able to then go to each child and contribute the covers one by one from each child to add them to that pending full box set contribution.
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andycob wrote:
If you simply contribute them separately at any other time you would create standalones which you should not do.


For a box set already created and approved, if need to correct a wrong data for a child, do I have to contribute to the child or throught the parent ?
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If a full box set already exists and is approved you would contribute from each profile individually.

This is in effect why you can contribute from the individual childs on a pending set, the pending box set exists so the contribution is appended to the pending contribution. However if is declined you would then need to contribute the full box set from the parent again.

The step of contributing the full box set only applies on the creation of the full box set.
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OK, clear to me now.
Thanks
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