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Brian,

Yes, please provide the details, I would like to add this functionality to MM Browser. Thank you!


In working with the XML files, I found that the ID was the only unique identifier, so that value carries over to MM Browser. Unless you are referring to another ID.


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binnerup wrote:
Potentially, the MMBrowser app could create an API that lets it act as if it was a My Movies for WMC remote - we would gladly hand out the details of this.

However, I do believe that since MMBrowser operates on the XML files and not the My Movies API, that it would not be directly possible for all situations, because of the ids passed.



Bump for Binnerup, maybe you missed my last post. I would like the details please.

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Hi, I've just had to move away from WMC unfortunately due to the no driver support. Anyway I was looking at Media portal 2 and you can change the skin to a WMC appearance. On this you can add new tile strips. So! Is it not possible to add tiles for movies and tv just like the original WMC and use My Movies in the same way as usual? thanks
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110971 wrote:
Hi, I've just had to move away from WMC unfortunately due to the no driver support. Anyway I was looking at Media portal 2 and you can change the skin to a WMC appearance. On this you can add new tile strips. So! Is it not possible to add tiles for movies and tv just like the original WMC and use My Movies in the same way as usual? thanks


Don't know anything about Media Portal 2, but have you tried Chameleon MediaCenter which was MMBrowser mentioned 3 posts up? https://chamconsoft.com/cmc/ It has the same look and feel of MM WMC but in many ways better. The developer has made a number of great updates the last few months. You can also keep adding your movies using the MM CM.

Edit: I just looked at Media Portal and it does look very comprehensive. I for one am heavily invested in Mymovies so if you could port my MM data to media portal, I may consider it.

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MediaPortal 2 looks nice, but doesn't import any of the metadata from My Movies, so you would be starting over from scratch.

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The MediaPortal 2 importer primarily uses the file name for automatic recognition and matching of online information. Therefore media items are best named according to the following scheme:

* Movies should be named in the format "Movie name (Year).xxx"

where "Year" is the release year as per the movie database imdb.com. This naming ensures that the file name is unique and unambiguous most of the times.


I don't think any serious My Movies users would want to start over like that, especially when Chameleon MediaCenter can use the My Movies API or existing metadata files and has TV Series/Episode support too.

It has a built-in DVD player with menu support, but for Blu-rays looks like you have to link to an external player, similar to CMC. I would hazard a guess that Chameleon MediaCenter's robust external player support is superior (and probably easier too).

The one standout feature that I see on MediaPortal 2 is the TV Tuner support, including cablecard. That seems to be the main reason many die-hard WMC users go through the effort of maintaining a working WMC install. Adding support for some kind of live/streaming TV functionality is high on my wish list for CMC, but the programming challenges are hard with this one.

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Hi

Thanks for the advice. Media Portal first attracted my attention because the WMC skin was so much like the Windows version. Taking a more in depth look at this and Chameleon I think Chameleon has made great strides to produce a quality media center and from what I've read and a couple of enquiries to the support they are very committed.

Binnerup stated on this forum that a Media Center was not on their remit, which, in a way I get. They provide an excellent library / database for our collections but as much as I like My Movies, I fail to see the point of My Movies without a Media Center. I'd like to think they would get behind Chameleon and fully support this project.

Richard
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If it does not do a pretty clean import I will not even consider it. I am not about to play the name game on thousands of titles...
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kennylee wrote:
If it does not do a pretty clean import I will not even consider it. I am not about to play the name game on thousands of titles...


I can understand your reluctance to have to mass convert your files in order to get a media program to work. Have you tried any of these programs or others? If you are referring to Chameleon MediaCenter, What version and which way did you import? I agree that the metadata import can be daunting to many, because you have to follow certain Mymovie suggestions on how the data is structured. The API method of importing the data is much more forgiving than the complete meta data approach. I am not saying that everything will import properly on the first try. It will be pretty close though. I have over 1500 titles and it did not take too much effort to look over the CMC log files and correct the data. Some people on the CMC forum have over 2500 titles and they had a little more effort to fix some issues and they got it done. The developer of CMC is quite helpful and he can quickly tell people why something didn't import properly. All you need to do is to ask him about why something worked the way it did. He also has a lot of documentation to help you along
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Just curious, There's various sites on the internet that describe how to install WMC on windows 10. But most of them look fairly dated.
I'm guessing something has changed in windows 10 that doesn't allow this anymore, but I was wondering if anyone has had any luck.

When I try it I get:


Prepare...

Install DISM packages...

Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.17763.771

Image Version: 10.0.17763.973

Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-MediaCenter-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.9600.16384
[==========================100.0%==========================]

Error: 0x800f081e

The specified package is not applicable to this image.

The DISM log file can be found at C:\WINDOWS\Logs\DISM\dism.log

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Here are the steps that I used to use to install the WMC hack.

Install Windows Media Center on Windows 10

Download and extract WindowsMediaCenter_10. 0.10134. ...
Run. Right-click on _TestRights.cmd and click Run as administrator.
Reboot your PC.
Run 2. Right-click on Installer.cmd and click Run as administrator.
Exit. After the installer runs, click any key to exit.

Also, are you doing a clean install of WMC? I not, then you have o run the uninstaller first.

I also recommend that you post in thegreenbutton.tv site. They are more dedicated to answering WMC questions
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I installed the trial version of Chameleon MediaCenter and my impression is that it does not come close to WMC. It's not much different than KODI other than the skin. I does not use the MyMovies database like WMC did and instead relies on .xml files stored in individual media folders, just like KODI requires .nfo files in the same place with the same results. And granted it was a trial version but during my trials if found it completely un-useable, i couldn't select any tile that appeared intact, blank tiles returned errors, and the program was locked up more than it was not. Trial or not, If I can't test function it's a resounding fail.
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Hi woodawg,

So sorry to hear about your poor first impression with CMC. I am the developer and I would like to help if you are interested. Your experience is not typical, and certainly does not represent how great CMC can be once it is up and running properly.

You are correct that CMC uses the XML metadata files, but you are somewhat mistaken in saying that CMC does not use the My Movies database. It is true that Binnerup does not allow any 3rd party apps to have direct DB access, but they do provide API access for users who have at least 2500 points (looks like you qualify, nice!), and CMC can optionally use the API. The quality of the data exported by the API is superior to what is available in the standard mymovies.xml files and the KODI .nfo files, so using the API will provide a superior experience with much richer metadata than is available to KODI, especially for things like TV Series where you can browse seasons and individual episodes.

CMC does not directly use the API... yet. That is a work in progress and coming later this year. The main holdup has been that in testing, the my movies API was slowing down CMC more than I liked, so I have kept the API access as a separate process named CME, and CMC still runs on top of the XML files for a much faster experience. In the future, I will be eliminating the need for XML files with a special hybrid approach I'm developing to keep CMC super fast while still able to use the My Movies API. More on that later when it's ready for primetime, but the end result should be a very near WMC+MM experience.

I'm not sure what you meant by "i couldn't select any tile that appeared intact", but my guess is that you were trying to use the mouse to click on a movie cover. CMC was originally designed to be used only with a MCE compatible remote control (or a keyboard), and didn't have any mouse support at all in the beginning. In recent versions, due to user requests, I have been adding in more and more mouse support. Most of the GUI is now mouse/touch enabled, but the most notable exception are the cover rows. You cannot use a mouse to click on a title, sorry. That too is in development and will be available this year, but I encourage you to try again using the arrow keys, [Enter] and [Back] on your keyboard.

I'm not sure what errors you are referencing, but my guess is that you are seeing the pre-programmed error notices that the XML data could not be read. If you are not using CME to access the My Movies API and generate the metadata, then that means you are still using the My Movies stock xml files ("mymovies.xml"). Even though they are working as designed for My Movies, as Binnerup has pointed out they weren't really designed for 3rd party programs - they are often really old and encrypted which is fine for MM but doesn't work for CMC. While I have a whole tutorial on my website on how to force My Movies Collection Management to generate new xml files, since you already have 2500+ points I recommend you instead skip the hassle and just use CME to generate new metadata from the My Movies API. It's actually pretty easy, you should be able to set it up in just a few minutes, and depending upon your collection size it might run for a couple minutes to a few hours. When you run CMC on top of fresh xml data, the result should be near perfect, instead of the horrible first experience you've had. I've also spent a considerable amount of time in making the SmartSync (which imports any new changes) super fast, so you can have your latest My Movies collection changes synced into CMC in just a few seconds.

One last point - I'm not sure what to make of your comment that CMC was "locked up more than it was not". As far as I know, CMC does not lock up - I certainly don't have any users with this issue. If I had to guess, it might be that you were expecting certain behaviors to work with the mouse and you thought CMC had locked up when you should have been using the keyboard/remote. But if you are experiencing lock ups, I'm here to help.

Paul





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mavrrick wrote:
The more I am thinking about this it isn't like anything special has to be now to implement with what I have stated. My Movies is already completely useable in the manor I have referred to with Plex. It is just a matter of setup after install for both pieces of software.

Another possibility would be to build a Plex plugin/Channel that is a agent to pull from the My Movies local database

Be aware that My Movies is much more than our Windows Media Center application - our server solution and mobile applications is used by thousands of users who never heard or even considered Windows Media Center an option for them. This topic however is not a discussion on the future of My Movies, but the future of the offering My Movies have on Windows Media Center - we know that for some of you, My Movies for Windows Media Center IS My Movies, but that is today not the case.
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