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Brian, Yes, please provide the details, I would like to add this functionality to MM Browser. Thank you! In working with the XML files, I found that the ID was the only unique identifier, so that value carries over to MM Browser. Unless you are referring to another ID. Paul
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binnerup wrote:Potentially, the MMBrowser app could create an API that lets it act as if it was a My Movies for WMC remote - we would gladly hand out the details of this.
However, I do believe that since MMBrowser operates on the XML files and not the My Movies API, that it would not be directly possible for all situations, because of the ids passed. Bump for Binnerup, maybe you missed my last post. I would like the details please. Paul
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Hi, I've just had to move away from WMC unfortunately due to the no driver support. Anyway I was looking at Media portal 2 and you can change the skin to a WMC appearance. On this you can add new tile strips. So! Is it not possible to add tiles for movies and tv just like the original WMC and use My Movies in the same way as usual? thanks
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110971 wrote:Hi, I've just had to move away from WMC unfortunately due to the no driver support. Anyway I was looking at Media portal 2 and you can change the skin to a WMC appearance. On this you can add new tile strips. So! Is it not possible to add tiles for movies and tv just like the original WMC and use My Movies in the same way as usual? thanks Don't know anything about Media Portal 2, but have you tried Chameleon MediaCenter which was MMBrowser mentioned 3 posts up? https://chamconsoft.com/cmc/ It has the same look and feel of MM WMC but in many ways better. The developer has made a number of great updates the last few months. You can also keep adding your movies using the MM CM. Edit: I just looked at Media Portal and it does look very comprehensive. I for one am heavily invested in Mymovies so if you could port my MM data to media portal, I may consider it.
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MediaPortal 2 looks nice, but doesn't import any of the metadata from My Movies, so you would be starting over from scratch. Quote:The MediaPortal 2 importer primarily uses the file name for automatic recognition and matching of online information. Therefore media items are best named according to the following scheme:
* Movies should be named in the format "Movie name (Year).xxx"
where "Year" is the release year as per the movie database imdb.com. This naming ensures that the file name is unique and unambiguous most of the times. I don't think any serious My Movies users would want to start over like that, especially when Chameleon MediaCenter can use the My Movies API or existing metadata files and has TV Series/Episode support too. It has a built-in DVD player with menu support, but for Blu-rays looks like you have to link to an external player, similar to CMC. I would hazard a guess that Chameleon MediaCenter's robust external player support is superior (and probably easier too). The one standout feature that I see on MediaPortal 2 is the TV Tuner support, including cablecard. That seems to be the main reason many die-hard WMC users go through the effort of maintaining a working WMC install. Adding support for some kind of live/streaming TV functionality is high on my wish list for CMC, but the programming challenges are hard with this one.
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Hi
Thanks for the advice. Media Portal first attracted my attention because the WMC skin was so much like the Windows version. Taking a more in depth look at this and Chameleon I think Chameleon has made great strides to produce a quality media center and from what I've read and a couple of enquiries to the support they are very committed.
Binnerup stated on this forum that a Media Center was not on their remit, which, in a way I get. They provide an excellent library / database for our collections but as much as I like My Movies, I fail to see the point of My Movies without a Media Center. I'd like to think they would get behind Chameleon and fully support this project.
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If it does not do a pretty clean import I will not even consider it. I am not about to play the name game on thousands of titles...
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kennylee wrote:If it does not do a pretty clean import I will not even consider it. I am not about to play the name game on thousands of titles... I can understand your reluctance to have to mass convert your files in order to get a media program to work. Have you tried any of these programs or others? If you are referring to Chameleon MediaCenter, What version and which way did you import? I agree that the metadata import can be daunting to many, because you have to follow certain Mymovie suggestions on how the data is structured. The API method of importing the data is much more forgiving than the complete meta data approach. I am not saying that everything will import properly on the first try. It will be pretty close though. I have over 1500 titles and it did not take too much effort to look over the CMC log files and correct the data. Some people on the CMC forum have over 2500 titles and they had a little more effort to fix some issues and they got it done. The developer of CMC is quite helpful and he can quickly tell people why something didn't import properly. All you need to do is to ask him about why something worked the way it did. He also has a lot of documentation to help you along
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Just curious, There's various sites on the internet that describe how to install WMC on windows 10. But most of them look fairly dated.
I'm guessing something has changed in windows 10 that doesn't allow this anymore, but I was wondering if anyone has had any luck.
When I try it I get:
Prepare...
Install DISM packages...
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.17763.771
Image Version: 10.0.17763.973
Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-MediaCenter-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.9600.16384
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Error: 0x800f081e
The specified package is not applicable to this image.
The DISM log file can be found at C:\WINDOWS\Logs\DISM\dism.log
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Here are the steps that I used to use to install the WMC hack.
Install Windows Media Center on Windows 10
Download and extract WindowsMediaCenter_10. 0.10134. ...
Run. Right-click on _TestRights.cmd and click Run as administrator.
Reboot your PC.
Run 2. Right-click on Installer.cmd and click Run as administrator.
Exit. After the installer runs, click any key to exit.
Also, are you doing a clean install of WMC? I not, then you have o run the uninstaller first.
I also recommend that you post in thegreenbutton.tv site. They are more dedicated to answering WMC questions
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I installed the trial version of Chameleon MediaCenter and my impression is that it does not come close to WMC. It's not much different than KODI other than the skin. I does not use the MyMovies database like WMC did and instead relies on .xml files stored in individual media folders, just like KODI requires .nfo files in the same place with the same results. And granted it was a trial version but during my trials if found it completely un-useable, i couldn't select any tile that appeared intact, blank tiles returned errors, and the program was locked up more than it was not. Trial or not, If I can't test function it's a resounding fail.
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Hi woodawg, So sorry to hear about your poor first impression with CMC. I am the developer and I would like to help if you are interested. Your experience is not typical, and certainly does not represent how great CMC can be once it is up and running properly. You are correct that CMC uses the XML metadata files, but you are somewhat mistaken in saying that CMC does not use the My Movies database. It is true that Binnerup does not allow any 3rd party apps to have direct DB access, but they do provide API access for users who have at least 2500 points (looks like you qualify, nice!), and CMC can optionally use the API. The quality of the data exported by the API is superior to what is available in the standard mymovies.xml files and the KODI .nfo files, so using the API will provide a superior experience with much richer metadata than is available to KODI, especially for things like TV Series where you can browse seasons and individual episodes. CMC does not directly use the API... yet. That is a work in progress and coming later this year. The main holdup has been that in testing, the my movies API was slowing down CMC more than I liked, so I have kept the API access as a separate process named CME, and CMC still runs on top of the XML files for a much faster experience. In the future, I will be eliminating the need for XML files with a special hybrid approach I'm developing to keep CMC super fast while still able to use the My Movies API. More on that later when it's ready for primetime, but the end result should be a very near WMC+MM experience. I'm not sure what you meant by "i couldn't select any tile that appeared intact", but my guess is that you were trying to use the mouse to click on a movie cover. CMC was originally designed to be used only with a MCE compatible remote control (or a keyboard), and didn't have any mouse support at all in the beginning. In recent versions, due to user requests, I have been adding in more and more mouse support. Most of the GUI is now mouse/touch enabled, but the most notable exception are the cover rows. You cannot use a mouse to click on a title, sorry. That too is in development and will be available this year, but I encourage you to try again using the arrow keys, [Enter] and [Back] on your keyboard. I'm not sure what errors you are referencing, but my guess is that you are seeing the pre-programmed error notices that the XML data could not be read. If you are not using CME to access the My Movies API and generate the metadata, then that means you are still using the My Movies stock xml files ("mymovies.xml"). Even though they are working as designed for My Movies, as Binnerup has pointed out they weren't really designed for 3rd party programs - they are often really old and encrypted which is fine for MM but doesn't work for CMC. While I have a whole tutorial on my website on how to force My Movies Collection Management to generate new xml files, since you already have 2500+ points I recommend you instead skip the hassle and just use CME to generate new metadata from the My Movies API. It's actually pretty easy, you should be able to set it up in just a few minutes, and depending upon your collection size it might run for a couple minutes to a few hours. When you run CMC on top of fresh xml data, the result should be near perfect, instead of the horrible first experience you've had. I've also spent a considerable amount of time in making the SmartSync (which imports any new changes) super fast, so you can have your latest My Movies collection changes synced into CMC in just a few seconds. One last point - I'm not sure what to make of your comment that CMC was "locked up more than it was not". As far as I know, CMC does not lock up - I certainly don't have any users with this issue. If I had to guess, it might be that you were expecting certain behaviors to work with the mouse and you thought CMC had locked up when you should have been using the keyboard/remote. But if you are experiencing lock ups, I'm here to help. Paul
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mavrrick wrote:The more I am thinking about this it isn't like anything special has to be now to implement with what I have stated. My Movies is already completely useable in the manor I have referred to with Plex. It is just a matter of setup after install for both pieces of software.
Another possibility would be to build a Plex plugin/Channel that is a agent to pull from the My Movies local database Be aware that My Movies is much more than our Windows Media Center application - our server solution and mobile applications is used by thousands of users who never heard or even considered Windows Media Center an option for them. This topic however is not a discussion on the future of My Movies, but the future of the offering My Movies have on Windows Media Center - we know that for some of you, My Movies for Windows Media Center IS My Movies, but that is today not the case.
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pauven wrote:Hi woodawg,
So sorry to hear about your poor first impression with CMC. I am the developer and I would like to help if you are interested. Your experience is not typical, and certainly does not represent how great CMC can be once it is up and running properly.
You are correct that CMC uses the XML metadata files, but you are somewhat mistaken in saying that CMC does not use the My Movies database. It is true that Binnerup does not allow any 3rd party apps to have direct DB access, but they do provide API access for users who have at least 2500 points (looks like you qualify, nice!), and CMC can optionally use the API. The quality of the data exported by the API is superior to what is available in the standard mymovies.xml files and the KODI .nfo files, so using the API will provide a superior experience with much richer metadata than is available to KODI, especially for things like TV Series where you can browse seasons and individual episodes.
CMC does not directly use the API... yet. That is a work in progress and coming later this year. The main holdup has been that in testing, the my movies API was slowing down CMC more than I liked, so I have kept the API access as a separate process named CME, and CMC still runs on top of the XML files for a much faster experience. In the future, I will be eliminating the need for XML files with a special hybrid approach I'm developing to keep CMC super fast while still able to use the My Movies API. More on that later when it's ready for primetime, but the end result should be a very near WMC+MM experience.
I'm not sure what you meant by "i couldn't select any tile that appeared intact", but my guess is that you were trying to use the mouse to click on a movie cover. CMC was originally designed to be used only with a MCE compatible remote control (or a keyboard), and didn't have any mouse support at all in the beginning. In recent versions, due to user requests, I have been adding in more and more mouse support. Most of the GUI is now mouse/touch enabled, but the most notable exception are the cover rows. You cannot use a mouse to click on a title, sorry. That too is in development and will be available this year, but I encourage you to try again using the arrow keys, [Enter] and [Back] on your keyboard.
I'm not sure what errors you are referencing, but my guess is that you are seeing the pre-programmed error notices that the XML data could not be read. If you are not using CME to access the My Movies API and generate the metadata, then that means you are still using the My Movies stock xml files ("mymovies.xml"). Even though they are working as designed for My Movies, as Binnerup has pointed out they weren't really designed for 3rd party programs - they are often really old and encrypted which is fine for MM but doesn't work for CMC. While I have a whole tutorial on my website on how to force My Movies Collection Management to generate new xml files, since you already have 2500+ points I recommend you instead skip the hassle and just use CME to generate new metadata from the My Movies API. It's actually pretty easy, you should be able to set it up in just a few minutes, and depending upon your collection size it might run for a couple minutes to a few hours. When you run CMC on top of fresh xml data, the result should be near perfect, instead of the horrible first experience you've had. I've also spent a considerable amount of time in making the SmartSync (which imports any new changes) super fast, so you can have your latest My Movies collection changes synced into CMC in just a few seconds.
One last point - I'm not sure what to make of your comment that CMC was "locked up more than it was not". As far as I know, CMC does not lock up - I certainly don't have any users with this issue. If I had to guess, it might be that you were expecting certain behaviors to work with the mouse and you thought CMC had locked up when you should have been using the keyboard/remote. But if you are experiencing lock ups, I'm here to help.
Paul
Well I went to your web site and couldn't even get registered on your forum, press submit and nothing happened. The link to your Policy page returned a "file not found" message. So came up empty there. But my question is, WMC can still be installed on Windows 10 and everything functions perfectly except for TV tuners. So I fail to under stand what your software brings to the table?
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karterjk wrote:Well I went to your web site and couldn't even get registered on your forum, press submit and nothing happened. The link to your Policy page returned a "file not found" message. So came up empty there. Hi karterjk, Sorry about the trouble registering on the forum. I recently updated the forum software to the latest version, and this broke the registration page's reCAPTCHA without me noticing, preventing new registrations. A new user pointed this out to me yesterday, and I promptly fixed it. I strive hard to keep the website and forum up to date, to fend off attacks and protect data/users, hopefully you understand and this makes you feel better about the minor trouble you had. Please, try again, and if you still have trouble let me know - I will take care of it. The rest of the website is still in the process of being fully migrated to the new WordPress solution (I started this a few weeks ago), and there's the occasional rough edge here and there as you noted. karterjk wrote:But my question is, WMC can still be installed on Windows 10 and everything functions perfectly except for TV tuners. So I fail to under stand what your software brings to the table? This My Movies forum has so much content that I'm sure you've missed it, but I've stated several times on record that if you have WMC working and are happy with it, stick with it. Kudos to you and enjoy it while it lasts. There, I've said it again. And though perhaps you didn't intend it this way, I take it as a huge compliment from you that CMC is being evaluated against WMC. A trillion $ company employed thousands of employees working millions of hours to develop WMC. I feel honored to have my work share a small corner of the spotlight - thank you. But instead of telling you what the point of CMC is, let me instead ask you, what's the point of WMC. You posted here, not on my forum but Binnerup's, and you got this response from the CMC developer within a day. I challenge you to post anywhere on the internet about WMC and get a positive response from Microsoft, ever. What's the point of sticking with software that the developer ignores? I actively develop and support CMC, addressing issues and needs that my users have. Microsoft actively takes steps that reduces WMC functionality. What's the point of choosing a dead end solution? A few days from now CMC v3.2 will be out, further improving functionality. A year from now several new CMC versions will have been developed and released, making CMC better and better. And a year from now, WMC is likely to be in worse shape than it is today. Windows 7, officially dead. Windows 8.1 mainstream support is dead. Microsoft's support of WMC, officially dead. What's the point of choosing the software that will only get worse, not better? CMC installation and updates are super easy. You extract the CMC zip file into a folder, and done! And CMC can auto-update with the push of a button, simple. Installing WMC on Win10 takes work, and often requires troubleshooting issues which can be a real pain. And major Win10 seasonal updates (twice a year!) typically break the install forcing you to fix it or reinstall again and again. What's the point of choosing misery over bliss? CMC supports more players (out of the box, no config required) than WMC: PowerDVD, DVDFab Player, JRiver, MPC-HC, MPC-BE, PotPlayer*, VLC, and Win10 Music & TV. (* I added PotPlayer support to CMC v3.2, coming out in a few days). And CMC let's you easily assign different players to different media formats. For example, you can use JRiver for DVD's, PowerDVD for Blu-rays, MPC-BE for DVD Episodes, VLC for Blu-ray Episodes, DVDFab Player for 4K UHD, and Win10 Music & TV for other encoded media (MKV's, WMV, WTV, etc.). Configure it any way you like, it's easy. WMC, uhm, yeah... not so much. What's the point of choosing a solution that doesn't work with the best players for you and your media? CMC is fast. I've worked hard to make startup and browsing extrememly fast. Yes, it is faster than WMC. And I'm working on more improvements that will make it even faster. What's the point of using slower software? CMC was originally designed to be just a GUI for your My Movies collection, which still is and will remain CMC's core feature (though it obviously does more these days). WMC is not My Movies centric, originally designed to do other things, and requires Binnerup's My Movies plugin to make it meet our needs. This means you have to wade through the WMC menus to get to My Movies. What's the point of choosing a solution that merely supports My Movies as a bolt-on, instead of being the primary focus? Movie Trailers now work on CMC. As I understand it, they no longer work on WMC. What's the point of choosing a broken solution? CMC can easily launch other apps, like Steam for gaming sessions, Netflix for streaming video, Spotify for streaming music, HDHomeRun for watching/recording live TV, Ring for monitoring your security cameras, and so much more. And with v3.2 coming out soon, I've added hotkeys, so now you can launch pretty much any app with the push of a button, making CMC a true HTPC hub. This hub functionality is what I thought WMC would become, but it never really lived up to its potential. This capability is incredibly popular with CMC users, and they asking for me to expand upon it (and I will!). What's the point of using software that pretends to be the center of your HTPC experience but fails to get out of its own way to let you use other HTPC apps? One of CMC's users is a Microsoft employee. While he didn't work on WMC himself, several of his close co-workers did. And yet, he chooses CMC over WMC. He thinks CMC is great. I guess he too no longer sees the point to WMC... But to each their own. I fully support and understand your preference for WMC. But isn't it great that there's other solutions to pick from? Plex. XBMC. CMC. Having a choice is a great thing, and that is what CMC brings to the table. Paul
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Thank you for the response.
I meant no disrespect, you put out a respectable product. However, our household has 7 TV's, 10 computer's total, so at $22 dollars a unit, I question the worth for us, when there are so many free alternatives. I will just keep using my Windows 8 machines with WMC.
That said, if it had Live TV with DRM capabilities (a total WMC replacement), I would gladly pay $22 a unit, even $100 dollars. Don't know how clever you are, ever thought about doing a kickstart campaign to get you started. Maybe collude with Ryan at EPG 123. Heck, I would even pay a subscription, for that.
In any case, good luck to you
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karterjk wrote:I meant no disrespect, you put out a respectable product. However, our household has 7 TV's, 10 computer's total, so at $22 dollars a unit, I question the worth for us, when there are so many free alternatives. I will just keep using my Windows 8 machines with WMC. Wow, that's a lot of PC's. I'd say you qualify for volume licensing. Use my contact form and drop me a line, we can work something out if you're interested. But definitely try out the unlicensed version first - CMC's free to use with the only restriction being it is limited to 101 titles. karterjk wrote:That said, if it had Live TV with DRM capabilities (a total WMC replacement), I would gladly pay $22 a unit, even $100 dollars. Don't know how clever you are, ever thought about doing a kickstart campaign to get you started. Maybe collude with Ryan at EPG 123. Heck, I would even pay a subscription, for that.
In any case, good luck to you
I'm not sure if this would meet your needs or not, but while CMC doesn't have a built-in DVR, the SiliconDust HDHomeRun is a pretty great solution. You can either get an Over the Air (OTA) or CableCard solution, which does support DRM. It plugs into your network, so all PC's on your network can access it. With CMC, you would launch the HDHomeRun app (I even dedicated a hotkey to launch it, CTRL+H), and the way CMC opens the HDHomeRun app it almost feels integrated. Because the official app is being used, DRM compliance is maintained. The app seems to work okay with a remote too. If you really want something integrated into CMC, I will caution you that this is unlikely to be realized. I've spent quite a bit of time trying to make this work, using various methods, and so far all of my solutions have come up short. I think part of the issue are some inherent limitations of my chosen programming language, things far beyond my control. I won't say it's impossible, but definitely improbable. Paul
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Apologies if this has been asked before. Since there is no option to search this specific thread, and the basic search returns an error when trying to go back beyond six months, here goes:
Is there anyway to use your My Movies Collection Management database in combination with Emby? All I could find were blog and forum posts of people who switched from My Movies for WMC to Emby, but no information on how to maintain those beautiful original DVD and Blu-ray covers and the corresponding metadata (i.e. back cover text as synopsis). Emby can automatically pull covers and metadata, and they do present it in an elegant way. However their metadata is not suitable for disc-based collections, especially when it concerns multi-disc movies.
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brother_hood wrote:Apologies if this has been asked before. Since there is no option to search this specific thread, and the basic search returns an error when trying to go back beyond six months, here goes:
Is there anyway to use your My Movies Collection Management database in combination with Emby? All I could find were blog and forum posts of people who switched from My Movies for WMC to Emby, but no information on how to maintain those beautiful original DVD and Blu-ray covers and the corresponding metadata (i.e. back cover text as synopsis). Emby can automatically pull covers and metadata, and they do present it in an elegant way. However their metadata is not suitable for disc-based collections, especially when it concerns multi-disc movies. As a matter of fact, yes there is a partial usage, it has been several years that I played with Emby. I think the proper answer falls under My Movies settings>Meta-data option, place a check mark in the store data for MediaBrowser (which was the original name for Emby), and your files should be stored for Emby usage. Remember this was quite a while ago, but believe it is still the case. You could as on the Emby forums, their members are pretty friendly and helpful.
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