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jesszeus
Posted: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:10:17 PM

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I declined your contribution because your back cover was incorrect. I issued you the warning because your history shows it is the 2nd time in recent months you received a warning for contributing incorrect back cover.

There are many titles that have multiple barcodes for the same title. How am I to know if your cover art is correct for this barcode when there is a big white sticker covering the barcode?

I need to see the barcode in order to validate your contribution. In certain cases I can understand the barcode is not displayed on the back cover art, like box set. This is not one of those cases. Since the WS has a back cover (bad or good) with a visible barcode to validate the back cover art for the WS. Why would you replace with a back cover art that has a white sticker covering the WHOLE barcode area?

If I accepted your cover art with the barcode covered up, then the next thing to follow is someone issuing a report stating the back cover is incorrect and why did MyMovies allow someone to contributed a back cover with a white sticker covering the barcode when it had one that did show the correct barcode.

If you want to contribute your cover art, then I need to see the barcode. If you don't want to remove the sticker because it my damage your cover art, I understand. Don’t contribution this one cover art and pass this contribution up and leave it to someone who can contributed the cover art WITHOUT a white sticker covering the whole barcode.

Tip: Any cover art that has a white sticker that covers the barcode will be declined. Only because there is NO way for a Moderator or a member to validate that the cover art correct.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:46:30 PM
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I have a similar problem with a submission. I buy old movies from the local library. They have covered the barcode with an impossible to remove new barcode that works with their scanning system. They also put two security stickers on the back cover to trip the door alarms if the security sticker is not deactivated. These stickers do not come off without taking the underlying paper cover with it. These titles are usually not in the database. Getting these stern warnings and threats of removal make it not worth the risk to try and help the cause. I will scan them in locally and forget the contribution next time.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:13:33 PM

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njbeacher wrote:
I have a similar problem with a submission. I buy old movies from the local library. They have covered the barcode with an impossible to remove new barcode that works with their scanning system. They also put two security stickers on the back cover to trip the door alarms if the security sticker is not deactivated. These stickers do not come off without taking the underlying paper cover with it. These titles are usually not in the database. Getting these stern warnings and threats of removal make it not worth the risk to try and help the cause. I will scan them in locally and forget the contribution next time.


There is not the slightest chance of risk if the Contribution Rules are followed.

If we did not issue "stern warnings and threats of removal" the database would be a useless piece of trash that nobody would have the slightest interest in contributing to. Good contributors have absolutely nothing to worry about - and they know it.

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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:21:49 PM

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Ian_g,

I am going to forward you my last email regarding your warning. When you receive it, please read and reply and lets move forward from there. These post on the forum are going and getting us nowhere. I am willing to work with you and any member of MyMovies, but the first step is replying to my email.


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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:59:52 AM

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I have deleted some posts in this thread because it was reeling madly away from this thread's topic.

This is not the place to discuss warnings received for improper contributions to the Webservice - that is what E-Mail is for.
Warnings are not removed simply because a user disagrees with the Contribution Rules and posts about it in the Forum - doing so almost guarantees the permanence of the warnings, and the possibility of further actions. The whole point of warnings is to alert a user and get them to stop making mistakes when they contribute - because if the mistakes continue, the account is eventually disabled. So to ask for warnings to be removed is not the way to handle the situation - you handle it by working with the moderator who gave you the warning, via E-mail. You also handle it by being a better contributor and reading the Contribution Guide if you plan on contributing.

Covers must have a visible matching barcode if they are printed on the Covers. If this cannot be done when contributing, it is best to leave it for someone else who can do it properly.

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Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:25:14 PM
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I've got a question along these lines. I have a DVD that came free with a toy for my kids - Little People: Discovering Animals (barcode 027084371710). There is no back cover in the webservice, and the copy I have doesn't have a barcode on the back (because it was a promotional item). If I try to contribute that cover, will it get rejected? Or is a cover with no barcode better than none at all? Ironically, the front cover is a scan of the promotional case, as well - not the retail release (which would have the barcode, I assume).

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Covers without barcodes contributed for titles that have barcodes are only accepted in specific circumstances, and they must be easily validated -- these are generally only odd shaped DVD boxes and TV series where the UPC is printed on the side or bottom of the box.

Your DVD is not an individual retail release, so I suggest you contribute this DVD as a new profile with the 12-zero barcode. You could possibly contribute it with the UPC of the toy it came with, but it would probably be incredibly hard to verify it.
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Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:07:31 AM
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What about back-covers from "bundling-editions" that are - except the missing barcode - identical. Is it OK to submit such a back-cover to a movie with barcode?

I thought having a nearly identical back-cover (to the retail-cover) is better than having no back-cover at all...
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Not at all - if you don't have the cover with the correct barcode, then we cannot accept it. Under no circumstances.

We would rather have no covers for a title, than have incorrect ones. Bundling covers may go to the Bundling creations in the webservice, and that is the only place.

I just declined a bundling cover submitted for a barcoded title a few minutes ago, now that we're on the subject.

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Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:10:06 AM
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"I thought having a nearly identical back-cover (to the retail-cover) is better than having no back-cover at all..."

The main issue for me with doing this is that then others who have this title won't realize that there is a title that is incomplete and submit the correct cover. Much better to have incomplete than incorrect data as incomplete can get completed but incorrect could take a loong time to get fixed.

Feel free to scan it for your local copy, just please don't submit things that don't follow the contribution rules 100%. (and please do feel free to complain and try go get unclear, incomplete, or what you feel is incorrect fixed!)
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Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:02:43 PM
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i have a cover that i scanned that has a permanent marker vertically through it. all numbers are clearly visible. should i clean it up, submit it as is, or ... ?
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I am quite new to MyMovies but I just started contributing missing information for all the dvds I own.
This morning I got an email saying that the back-cover of the dvd box 'Loriot - Gesammelte Werke', with barcode '7321921956720' for country 'Germany' that I had improved couple of days ago has no barcode on its back. Well in my case it actually does NOT have one on the back, it's on the BOTTOM of the box, just as eg. a Harray Potter 6-DVD-box, that I just wanted to contribute this morning.
The cover now is replaced with a quite identical cover to mine exept it has the barcode-part that is found on the bottom of my box placed on the back (see attached images).
I did not know that there were different box-arts for that title, so I don't see my works as done wrong...
There are some other DVD-boxes, wich I want to contribute in further time, that actually does not have a barcode on the back-cover, its as I said on th bottom. So, as I couldn't find any answer to this question, how to go on?

- contribute the back cover without barcode (because it's on the bottom) an send a report saying "the barcode is on the bottom, it does not have one on the back"
- contribute no back cover at all (not quite an option as I think)
- photoshop the backcover that there is the correct barcode (not quite an option as well)
- contribute the bottom as back with the result that no back-cover is contributed at all, just a piece with barcode an some copyright-text on it, saying nothing about the dvd-box.

so, don't misunderstand me, I am not up to gain whatever point I can get to not pay for the program, the price isn't really the point. I just wan't to support the community as far as I can (I don't own that huge number of titles, though most of them are already contributed) and supply high-qualety data, as I just corrected some titles that really were messed up.

so, how to go on with this dvd-box-barcode-bottom-problem?

my scanned cover, barcode on bottom and cover that mine was replaced with (before my contribution there was no cover at all). All are downscaled...

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Usually, we can just check against another source. If the cover doesn't have a barcode while the cover from another source does or we can't match it against another source at all, then they will likely be declined and a warning may be issued. You can always appeal a warning and have it removed if you can provide sufficient proof that they are correct.

I would recommend either:
- Scan the bottom and attach it with the back cover (file a report stating this!). Once it has been approved, re-upload just the back cover.
- Upload the covers and file a report noting the barcode is on the bottom and provide a link to the barcode proof on photobucket or imageshack.
- Send your covers and proof directly to a moderator by email and they can be uploaded for you.

Any of these is better than just uploading them without any notice sent to a moderator for a heads up.
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Allright, thx for the fast answer. In this case I will photoshop my high-res-scan without barcode with a scan of the bottom that it maches the actual lowres-backcover (the barcode-part on the back is exactly the same as on the back of the cover thats on right now.
Please also remove any warning connected to this contribution saying that I uploaded wrong data. thx.
Again sry for the trouble - I thought that this problem with dvd-boxes is quite common so I sent no report.
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It is quite common, and most mods will assume that a dvd-box-set has a barcode on the bottom and try to verify it independently before declining it. Even if all else fails, I usually try to give the user the benefit of the doubt and approve it. There are a lot of box-sets out there.

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I'm new and I've just started to add titles to my collection. A couple of times I've got a hit on the barcode & country that matches my title but with a different cover on the web service. When I check the cover on the web service the barcode doesn't match the title data. In one instance the description is also completely wrong, not matching cover on the web service or my own title. I have reported these errors since I assume there has been a glitch in the moderation of this data.

Later on I guess I could also completely overwrite the title with my own title data and covers to at least make it consistent?
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I have a couple cases related to this topic that I'd like some guidance on:

1) I have a boxed set called "Humphrey Bogart: The Essential Collection". There is absolutely no bar code on the material. I think it must have been on the shrink wrap in the store. It hasn't been modified; it's nearly brand new - the material simply doesn't have a bar code on it. Not on the bottom; top; front; back or embedded in any material inside the box. I looked. I found the bar code on line in a store listing the product. I could try to find the title in a brick-and-mortar store; if I'm lucky someone will have it; and I can verify where the bar code is located. I posted separately about this title in this area of the forum; thus far I've received no replies.

2) I have a copy of "Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer" Widescreen & Fullscreen edition. The back has a nice sticker replacing the original bar code with a new one. Not sure exactly why; but there it is - looking up the bar code online does find the correct product. The bar code I have is not in the My Movies database. Should I add this title, under my variant bar code? All the guidance says is that the back cover must match the bar code of the entry. My thinking is that I should add the title under my variant bar code; since that would help other people who happen to purchase the title with the same bar code; and use the bar code to look it up. The Disc ID's are the same as an existing entry in the database.

What should I do in these two cases?
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Just a very quick Q (and possibly an apology)

I tend to buy movies - bluray and dvd - as steelbook editions.
Many of these don't have barcodes on the case itself - relying instead on sleeves or stickon covers which need to be removed before you can actually play the disc..

Instructions on this thread http://www.mymovies.dk/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=4183
say to not do covers for slip cases.. Does this apply to the stickers?

Personally I prefer to see the actual cover art of the rear of the steelbook - not the stick on card.. But can understand that it's hard then to spot the genuine article..
I just did a submission (before I read these forums - my bad) which had the front and rear covers for the actual case, and I included the card as an additional for the contribution - is this the right method?
If this was wrong - I apologize... Is there a way for me to contribute other data and not the covers?

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I have a DVD called "A History of Snooker" which was released under the label of "Marks and Spencer". Marks and Spencer is a UK high street retail chain Which, like a number of other other chains will release DVD's for the "Christmas Present" market as opposed to a more normal general release. In this case the cover does not have a barcode on the back cover but it does however have one on the bottom of the box. This would be fine except the barcode is M5514458S which is obviously an internal code applicable just to that particular chain of shops.

Is there any way that this could be contributed as it appears to contravene all the submission rules?.

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In this case, you would use "000000000000" as the barcode.
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