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I keep getting stupid errors when trying to contribute to profiles these days. This is the most annoying one. I don't know what you expect. Like, I can't edit the way a persons profile is on imdb. So the alternative is to not have a cast and crew list... File Attachment(s):
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I also experienced that already a few times, and the interface to change those names is unusable - I don't want to scroll to an endless list of names trying to find the offending one and correcting to then get the same error for another name.
I think those names are imported like that from IMBD so the check should be removed.
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So...is there a solution to this ridiculous bug?
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Of course it's bug. It never had this issue before. Are you seriously trying to tell me I have to comb through profiles and just NOT check the "inherit cast and Crew from Movie" box? And then I also have to manually go in AND delete any cast and crew that may happen to have a (I) after their name? Because that's ridiculous. There are thousands of profiles on IMDB who have (X) attached to their names (Myself included), so they just can't be added to the service anymore? That just sounds like having incomplete cast and crew lists to me.
And what's the alternative? Check off the "inherit cast and Crew from Movie" box and then somehow go into people's profiles on IMDB and remove the numerals from their names? Because that's literally impossible.
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Here's the profile for the "Speed Racer" Actor "Rain" in IMDB, with the Profile name "Rain (III)" listed in the person's IMDB profile. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1713653/?ref_=ttfc_fcr_3_35 The reason for the "(III)" in the profile name is to dis-ambiguate the name to distinguish from the other Cast and Crew members in the IMDB database who go by "Rain". It is not part of the person's professional or birth name. It is simply a visual convenience for users to dis-ambiguate. Each person in IMDB does have a unique IMDB-ID for their name, but does not have a unique text name. If IMDB has correctly normalized all the Cast&Crew names for people named just "Rain" in their database, there are approximately twenty of them that need to be dis-ambiguated, otherwise you will be crediting each of them with the work of all twenty of them. https://www.imdb.com/find/?q=rain&s=nm&exact=true&ref_=fn_nme_exIt is a shortcoming in MyMovies that does not deal well with this kind of Name dis-ambiguation. Ideally, under the surface the database would hold the unique identifier (in this case "nm1713653") as well as the standard textname "Rain" and the dis-ambiguating textname "Rain (III)". The name management in MyMovies does not allow the end-user any real way to dis-ambiguate names in the application. It's a very real -- but very hard -- problem, and I don't know how you resolve it, other than maybe providing a "Sort Name"= "Rain (III)" that links to the unique IMDB-ID for the Name. In any case, each Name record in the MyMovies database should include the unique IMDB-identifier (if it doesn't already), that is modifiable for users to be able to correct improperly pointed records. For example, correcting a reference to Actress "Rain" (listed by IMDB as "Rain(XV)" in their IMDB profile to disambiguate them) who corresponds to "nm11341443" that really should properly point to the Cinematographer "Rain" (listed by IMDB as "Rain(XXIV)" in their IMDB profile to disambiguate them) who corresponds to "nm14080394". Similarly, the current Name management in MyMovies does not account for transliterated names well by not allowing "Alternate names" on a unique Name-ID that corresponds to the person themselves on lookups and displays. For example, I had to create a "Michael Cacoyannis" credit as this name was not found in the database. As his original name is Greek, in Greek characters, and has been transliterated in multiple ways, and he has used a "Westernized" professional name, the name of the director "Μιχάλης Κακογιάννης" is very complex to manage. It was in the MyMovies Cast&Crew list already as "Michalis Kakogiannis", which is not a form of his name that corresponds to any of his professional credits (usually listed as "Michael Cacoyannis"). Fixing this larger problem would be a huge project. You might look to how the American Film Institute implements their "authoritative name" database if you ever wanted to try to tackle this massive project (which would also involve normalizing all the names in the current MyMovies database.) I hope this complex description was comprehensible.
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deprongmori wrote:Here's the profile for the "Speed Racer" Actor "Rain" in IMDB, with the Profile name "Rain (III)" listed in the person's IMDB profile. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1713653/?ref_=ttfc_fcr_3_35 The reason for the "(III)" in the profile name is to dis-ambiguate the name to distinguish from the other Cast and Crew members in the IMDB database who go by "Rain". It is not part of the person's professional or birth name. It is simply a visual convenience for users to dis-ambiguate. Each person in IMDB does have a unique IMDB-ID for their name, but does not have a unique text name. If IMDB has correctly normalized all the Cast&Crew names for people named just "Rain" in their database, there are approximately twenty of them that need to be dis-ambiguated, otherwise you will be crediting each of them with the work of all twenty of them. https://www.imdb.com/find/?q=rain&s=nm&exact=true&ref_=fn_nme_exIt is a shortcoming in MyMovies that does not deal well with this kind of Name dis-ambiguation. Ideally, under the surface the database would hold the unique identifier (in this case "nm1713653") as well as the standard textname "Rain" and the dis-ambiguating textname "Rain (III)". The name management in MyMovies does not allow the end-user any real way to dis-ambiguate names in the application. It's a very real -- but very hard -- problem, and I don't know how you resolve it, other than maybe providing a "Sort Name"= "Rain (III)" that links to the unique IMDB-ID for the Name. In any case, each Name record in the MyMovies database should include the unique IMDB-identifier (if it doesn't already), that is modifiable for users to be able to correct improperly pointed records. For example, correcting a reference to Actress "Rain" (listed by IMDB as "Rain(XV)" in their IMDB profile to disambiguate them) who corresponds to "nm11341443" that really should properly point to the Cinematographer "Rain" (listed by IMDB as "Rain(XXIV)" in their IMDB profile to disambiguate them) who corresponds to "nm14080394". Similarly, the current Name management in MyMovies does not account for transliterated names well by not allowing "Alternate names" on a unique Name-ID that corresponds to the person themselves on lookups and displays. For example, I had to create a "Michael Cacoyannis" credit as this name was not found in the database. As his original name is Greek, in Greek characters, and has been transliterated in multiple ways, and he has used a "Westernized" professional name, the name of the director "Μιχάλης Κακογιάννης" is very complex to manage. It was in the MyMovies Cast&Crew list already as "Michalis Kakogiannis", which is not a form of his name that corresponds to any of his professional credits (usually listed as "Michael Cacoyannis"). Fixing this larger problem would be a huge project. You might look to how the American Film Institute implements their "authoritative name" database if you ever wanted to try to tackle this massive project (which would also involve normalizing all the names in the current MyMovies database.) I hope this complex description was comprehensible. It was totally comprehensible, but I just don't think it's something they care to fix. Which is frustrating, as it wasn't an issue before.
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So... no fix or update on this?
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And tell me how exactly they are supposed to be "corrected"? That's how they appear on IMDB. I can't edit an actors profile on IMDB. So using the Inherit Cast and Crew box has effectively become useless then. That's like a downgrade.
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Bump. No response to this or what?
These kind of issues and lack of support on them are making me use the service less and less, which is sad for me, as I've been a die hard champion of this program for well over a decade now.
And now that it has become MORE expensive and forced subscription the service becomes worse...? That's a bummer.
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