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jevansoh
Posted: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 5:09:57 AM
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Hello,

I am using a Sony BDP-CX7000es with My Movies and have the changer set up and the input switching set up in My Movies.

I just filled up my first changer, so I'm in the market for a second one.

However, I'm unsure how I will control it and handle it with my remote control and My Movies.

My Movies can handle the input switching, but how do those of you with multiple changers set up your remote control? How does it know which changer to play the movie on and which changer to control?

Some of you have six changers or more, I've read. How do you handle them?

I need to make the input switching and control of each changer as seamless and easy as possible for others to be able to use the system.

Thanks,

--J
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I don't use the input switching with My Movies. My universal remote handles all of that. I have an activity in my universal remote for Windows Media Center. I also have activities in my universal remote for each of my Sony changers. My Movies knows which changer to power on and which disc to play per the assignment I made for the disc in the Collection Management (CM) application.

So once I select the "Play" option I just change to the particular changer activity in my universal remote. An activity macro runs when I change to the activity which does the input switching. The proper source selects are made and I'm all set to control the changer. My Movies has already powered on the changer, so I just wait. Once the changer is fully powered on and at the XMB the serial command is sent by My Movies to play the disc I selected. Done deal.

This begs the question though. How do I know which changer activity I need to go to in my universal remote once I select the "Play" option? For this I key off the "Location" section of the My Movies for WMC interface as shown below. There's an option within CM you'll need to be sure you have selected for the "Location" details to be shown.



I should mention this as well. By default the "Location" details are displayed with a bunch of unnecessary canned text. The canned text precedes the actual changer name and slot number. As a result, at times some of the actual location details can fall outside the boundaries of the interface, cases where a title contains multiple discs. Even when that doesn't happen I find the canned text annoying, so I just remove it. This is done by editing the localization file for the language you're using. The localization file for English is called, "localization_1033.xml". I'm still running My Movies 4.07, but I'd imagine the localization files still resides in the same folder path. (C:\ProgramData\My Movies\Localization\localization_1033.xml) Should be pretty easy to find in any event.

Should mention this as well. Even with the canned text removed, the "Location" line item there only provides enough room to display a few disc locations, so if a given title contains more than one disc I also include the changer name and slot number in parentheses when naming the discs in CM that way when I select the "Play" option the location details are displayed right there along with each of the disc names. Example shown below.



In the above example there are 7 seasons total if you keep scrolling down. Quite often I'll create individual titles per season. I may do so for this box set eventually. Just haven't felt like it yet. Note also how I added extra discs solely for use as labels and separators. Makes it much nicer when browsing down to the disc I'd like to play with a large box set like this.

There's also a golden rule I always follow which I recommend for those with multiple changers. Never allow the discs for a given title to carry over from one changer to the next. This provides for the first of the "Location" details displayed telling you what changer each of the discs reside in for the given title. As a result, it doesn't really matter if there's enough room to display all the location details. Since the first of the location details tells you which changer the discs reside in you're all set. Once selecting a disc to play you just change to that changer activity with your universal remote and wait for the disc to play.

Now in my case I quite often won't even select the disc from My Movies. I'll just use My Movies to browse for what I want to watch. Once I find a disc I'd like to watch I'll instead select the changer and slot number using my universal remote. That's why I always ensure the changer name and slot number for each disc are prominently displayed within the My Movies for WMC interface, even if that means including those location details as part of the disc names. I provide a brief walk-through of this in a post over at AVSForum here if you're interested in checking it out.

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jevansoh
Posted: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:47:39 AM
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Thanks for the detailed reply. I really appreciate it.

I understand better how you deal with multiple changers now, but how does your remote control know which one to operate when you click play, pause, stop, etc?

There are only 3 remote code settings and you have more changers than that. So when you press play, do multiple changers start playing a disc?

Same thing for selecting discs....If you select disc 100 then press play, does disc 100 play on multiple changers?

How are you handling the inputs in your receiver/tv/pre-pro? Do you use an HDMI switcher for all those inputs?

Thanks,

--J
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Ah, okay. This should be fun. Yes, I do account for that. Each of my 10 Sony Blu-ray changers are set to the same Command Mode. For independent control of each I'm using (multiple) 8-port HDMI switches and 8-port IR and RS-232 routers. When selecting the activity for my 7th Blu-ray changer for example the activity macro that runs sets the HDMI switch and IR/RS-232 routers to the proper ports as I'm taken to the activity. Once at the activity any Sony changer IR/RS-232 commands that are sent are only then received by the 7th Blu-ray changer.

My IR/RS-232 routers also allow for making all ports active, so if I wanted to send an IR/RS-232 command to all the changers at once I could. I do this when powering off my entire system. When powering off my system I have the system off marco set to make all IR ports active before sending the single command to power off the changers. Any changers that happen to be powered on get powered off as a result. I also have an extended system on macro. On a normal button press none of the changers get powered on. With an extended button press they all get powered on. I rarely have a need to power them all on at once, but why not have the option. It's nice to have for testing purposes if needed. It's also just fun to watch them all light up at once.

And a little more about the universal remote (Philips Pronto Professional TSU9600) that I use. While the remote can send direct IR through the air I've programmed it instead to send all commands (IR/RS-232) over my wireless network to what's called an extender (Philips RFX9600 Serial Extender). The extender is designed to work with the remote. When programming the remote I designate which extender port should be used when a given command is sent. The extender has several IR, RS-232, relay and power sensing ports. The extender receives the commands from the remote over my wireless network, then sending the commands out the assigned IR/RS-232 outputs to my IR/RS-232 routers, the commands continuing on from there based on what outputs each router is sent to. Fun stuff.

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Posted: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 6:10:20 PM

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And in case you're curious, here's a couple pictures of my Sony changers. On one wall in my home office I've got my first 8 Sony BDP-CX7000ES Blu-ray changers in addition to all the related gear needed for integration with my system. See below.



On an adjacent wall I have the rest of my gear, including my 9th and 10th Blu-ray changers and 6 Sony DVP-CX985V DVD changers. I control the DVD changers in same fashion as described in my previous post though with my DVD changers the audio/video switching is done for component (video) and optical (audio). Direct Disc Selection for my DVD changers is done by using a predetermined sequence of IR codes as the 985v model doesn't have RS-232 ports.



Also, if you'd like to see some pictures of the back of the A/V stand in the first picture above just hit up the link below in my forum signature to my Blu-ray.com Home Theater Gallery. There are a number of pictures there showing how everything is hooked up. Most of the pictures were taken from my home in Maryland prior to having moved to Florida. There are a few good shots of the IR and RS-232 routers I'm using. Call me crazy, but it was a lot of fun getting everything hooked up, especially the cable management aspect of it.

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jevansoh
Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2019 6:35:57 AM
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Thanks so much for taking your time to explain all this to me.

It sounds a bit complicated, but I do believe you have the ideal setup.

I'd appreciate it if someone else would chime in, too. Does anyone else still use My Movies with 2 or more disc changers? How do you have it set up?

Just trying to weigh all my options.

Thanks,

--J
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I just have 3 of the 7000s so I just have each set to a different command mode and my AVR remote programmed to each one based on the input selection. My Movies is just used to load the selected disc in the relevant player then I use the AVR's programable remote which I also use for the My Movies interface. The 7000s have 3 selectable IR command modes so if you have a programable remote of some sort then that's all you probably need unless you plan more than 3. If you go more than 3 then you will have to look at the kind of setup above where you are routing commands via a control system of some sort that can be configured to route commands to the relevant unit and not simple direct IR to the player.
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As you eluded to in an earlier post Jevanshoh and as Andy said, if one is only looking to control 2-3 changers independently it can all be done using direct IR as each changer and remote can be set to 1 of 3 different Command Modes, i.e. IR codesets. No additional equipment would be required aside from the changers and OEM remotes though you could use an activity based universal remote naturally.

Setting the Command Mode of the player...



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Setting the Command Mode of the OEM remote...
Set the Command Mode for the remote so it matches the Command Mode for the player.

1. Press POP UP/MENU while pressing down BD.
2. While BD is flashing, enter the 3-digit code number using the number buttons, then press ENTER.

Command Mode | Code Number
BD1 | 310
BD2 | 311
BD3 | 312

If the Command Mode for the player does not match the remote, the Command Mode for the player appears on the front panel display when you try to operate the remote.

Independent control of 4 or more changers would require your remote control setup support IR routing. There are a number of universal remote control solutions out there (including Logitech I believe) that offer base stations with addressable IR outputs.

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